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2012-09-30  Route: North Slope
Info: The snow is slowly accumulating. On the slopes of Challenger Point, the melted snow is creating an icy base with new snow accumulating on top. The snow above 13,000 feet is deep enough to cover boots (a few inches) in some spots and begin to cover gaiters (over six inches) in other spots. The second photo shows the snow on the slopes of Challenger Point at 13,000+ feet. Snow is on the ground but is not an issue below 11,800 (although, the melted snow is making the trail a muddy, slippery mess). 
EM_in_CO  2012-10-01   2         Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2012-09-30  Route: North Slope
Info: As of the 28th, snow on the western face is mostly melted off, though the northeast slope typically holds quite a bit more (picture 1). On the 29th, there was more snow. As of the 30th it looks thin but icy. 
jdorje  2012-09-28   1         Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2012-09-22  Route: North Slope
Info: Some lingering snow on northern aspects of Challenger and Kit Carson. No need for gaiters, though. Otherwise, summer conditions prevail. The descent down the gully on the way back is outright nasty. Bring trekking poles! 
esagas  2012-09-23   0             Delete
2012-09-13  Route: North Slope
Info: There was snow yesterday, but 97% it melted off of west-facing slopes today. The forecast is more sun the next three days. 
jdorje  2012-09-13   1         Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2012-09-09  Route: North Slope
Info: The scree on the descent from 13,800 to 12,000 or so rivals going down Mt. Columbia, but I think this route is worse because it‘s steeper. The trail (if you can call it that) has a lot of erosion and is in need of some CFI love. Full story with pictures & video on Kit Carson / Challenger can be found below: http://awilbur77.blogspot.com/2012/09/oh-sheep-there-are-mice-in-my-jeep.html 
awilbur77  2012-09-10   0   1          Delete
2012-07-01  Route: North Slope
Info: Snow free. Started at the TH at 5:45 am, reached the summit of Challenger at 10:30 am and Kit Carson at 11:15, back to the Lake at 2 pm and back to the TH at 4:15. I would highly recommend camping at the Lake the night before as it ended up being a long day. The Class 2+ climb from the Lake to the Challenger ridge is brutal, loose rock and very steep. Easily my least favorite 14er trail. Start early and wear a helmet imho. 
WarDamnPanic  2012-07-01   0             Delete
2012-06-26  Route: North Slope
Info: The snow that the previous update mentioned is now more like 2/3 up the mountain and is easily avoided. It does get pretty slick on the way down. I guess Roach‘s 2+ rating is accurate given his definition of 2+ but I found the top half to be slower than class 3 both up and down. So much loose rock. 
mikefromcraig  2012-06-26   0             Delete
2012-06-04  Route: North Slope
Info: 100% snow free. Great glissades down the small couloir to the north of the Kirk Upper basin nearly dry and the uppermost willow lake is about 50% thawed. Early storms today prevented us from doing Kit....the north side of the avenue still had snow though so be prepared for that. EDITED WITH PHOTOS ADDED!!!! First photo shows Adams Second photo shows Kirk coul Third one shows North side of Crestones 
Matt Lemke  2012-06-04   3   4      Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2012-05-26  Route: North Slope
Info: Only a couple of snow patches beofre Willow Lake all of which were avoidable. I turned around here because I couldn‘t even stand in the wind, guessing 70-80 mph gusts- I can tell you I‘ve never seen wind like this day. I wasn‘t carrying anything special (crampons, axe) and Challenger looked doable but I wasn‘t about to endure the wind for that long. The attached photo was taken from the creek above Willow Lake. 
Stevo  2012-05-29   1         Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2012-05-19  Route: North Slope
Info: Trail is more or less dry to Willow lake. The snow in the up the north slope was nearly continuous to the ridge, with a few dry spots. Was able to glissade most of the way down. The Avenue to Kit Carson was completely covered in snow, and snow in the second section was already very soft before noon. We turned back as it was unsafe to cross at the time. Picture 1: Going up the north slope Picture 2: Crossing the first portion of The Avenue Picture 3: The second section of The Avenue, our turn around point 
climbingbiz  2012-05-20   3   2      Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2012-03-31  Route: 
Info: Climbed and skied Kirk Couloir today. Snow extended from the basin below the couloir, through the couloir and to about 100‘ below the Kit Carson-Challenger saddle. Snow in the couloir was very firm and mostly consolidated. Hard snow and it would be hard to stop a fall. General Willow Lake Conditions: The trail is dry from the TH to the headwall where you‘ll find patches of snow beyond the first stream crossing and then more continous snow above the headwall and all the way to Willow Lake. The snow was hollowed out and very collapsable. After the lake, the trail up to Challenger is mostly dry past the top of the waterfall. Patchy snow after that, but not continous all the way to Kirk Couloir. 
BillMiddlebrook  2012-04-01   4      1   Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2011-10-16  Route: North Slope
Info: Decent amount of snow above Willow Pass to the lake, although it is all boot-packed. From the waterfall above Willow Lake the snow can get mid-calve. On Challenger it was post-holing almost the entire way up. An axe helps in spots, but in others provides almost no purchase. Made it up to about 13,850 before having to turn around due to snow and ice. 
Cool Hand Luke  2011-10-16   0   2          Delete
2011-09-28  Route: North Slope
Info: Trail is dry and no snow to the summit. Colors are almost at peak. Great climb. 
mrschaible  2011-09-29   0             Delete
2011-09-25  Route: North Slope
Info: The route from Willow Lake is mostly clear. There are a few spots here and there with snow, the ridge is all clear, and the trail over to Kit Carson haas a few avoidable spots also. 
I like it on top  2011-09-25   1         Rotate Image(s)  Edit  Delete
2011-09-21  Route: North Slope
Info: Snow on Thursday-Saturday has mostly melted by now. There might be minimal snow at the top but it should be climbable without any snow gear. 
jdorje  2011-09-21   0             Delete
2011-07-19  Route: North Slope
Info: This is not a peak condition report. I just wanted to report that I had an encounter with a black bear and her cub at the 4wd TH around 3:30am. Be on alert for the next couple of days. I decided to play it safe and head home, ending my trip early. 
iquack08  2011-07-19   0             Delete
2011-06-10  Route: North Slopes/Pencil Couloir
Info: I‘m having computer issues and couldn‘t edit the conditions report I just posted to add photos. Hopefully this one will work. Road to the trailhead is in quite good condition. I made it all the way to 1/10 of a mile from the main trailhead in my low-clearance Chevy Cobalt (note, however, that it is a UAW-made monster . . . basically a 4-cylinder John Wayne). Approach to Willow Lake is in great shape and very little snow in the entire Willow Lake Basin, so leave your snowshoes at home. I attempted the Pencil Couloir on Challenger (Images 1 and 2). Even with an early start from above Willow Lake, snow conditions deteriorated quickly. The snow was good at first, but by 7:45 a.m., when I was just more than halfway up the couloir, it turned into 4 inches of slush on top of a base layer of ice--couldn‘t get a grip with my crampons or ice axe. I instead climbed onto the rock just east (left) of the couloir (Image 3) and scrambled to the top of the notch (not bad, Class 3 or 3+ tops). The standard route along the west (right) side of the couloir still had a lot of snow; I think the east side might be better for the time being. From the notch to the summit (Image 4) is smooth sailing. Kit Carson is still not viable from Challenger. Will try to post a separate conditions report on Carson. 
Exiled Michigander  2011-06-11   4   1          
2011-06-10  Route: North Slope/Pencil Couloir
Info: Hopefully a trip report will follow if I find time tomorrow or Monday. For now, here‘s an update on conditions for Challenger Point from Willow Lake. Road to the trailhead is in quite good condition. I made it all the way to 1/10 of a mile from the main trailhead in my low-clearance Chevy Cobalt (note, however, that it is a UAW-made monster . . . basically a 4-cylinder John Wayne). Approach to Willow Lake is in great shape and very little snow in the entire Willow Lake Basin, so leave your snowshoes at home. I attempted the Pencil Couloir on Challenger (Images 1 and 2). Even with an early start from above Willow Lake, snow conditions deteriorated quickly. The snow was good at first, but by 7:45 a.m., when I was just more than halfway up the couloir, it turned into 4 inches of slush on top of a base layer of ice--couldn‘t get a grip with my crampons or ice axe. I instead climbed onto the rock just east (left) of the couloir (Image 3) and scrambled to the top of the notch (not bad, Class 3 or 3+ tops). The standard route along the west (right) side of the couloir still had a lot of snow; I think the east side might be better for the time being. From the notch to the summit (Image 4) is smooth sailing. Kit Carson is still not viable from Challenger. Will try to post a separate conditions report on Carson. 
Exiled Michigander  2011-06-11   0   2          
2011-06-01  Route: North Slope
Info: Climbed the very easy Challenger Point North Slope, conditions were great! There was absolutly no snow and I wore a sweet Kansas Jayhawks T-shirt and cut off jeans. Also, I saw some bears.....we got drunk together. It was a great time 
QueerArmorGuy99  2012-05-01   0             Delete
2011-04-17  Route: North Slope
Info: Very little snow somewhat below Willow Lake. Snowshoes were handy at times. Above Willow Lake winter conditions still exist, with icy hard pack patches here and there complemented with loose rotten snow as well. 
scholbiwan  2011-04-18   0             Delete

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