Peak(s):	Challenger Point - 14,086 feet Kit Carson Peak - 14,167 feet
Date Posted:	08/10/2014
Date Climbed:	08/09/2014
Author:	MissH

Just Another Beautiful CO Weekend

After a fun time on Kelso Ridge last week, I was feeling confident about tackling some of these "Class 3" 14ers. I told an out-of-state climber on Torrey's last Sunday that I'd post something about this hike here since he plans to do it next week (again, from out of state) with his girlfriend who is slightly more averse to exposed scrambling. Then I figured yet another TR about some well-climbed peaks might be a little useful, especially if I point out some tips I picked up on the way. So, hopefully he reads this (especially Tip 6) and/or somebody else benefits from my ramblings!

Timeline

Arrived to TH, Friday 3pm - a couple parking spots open still
Started hike to Willow Lake - 3:10 pm, Friday
Arrived at lake - 6:45 pm
Left camp for Challenger and KC- 6:10 am, Saturday
Challenger Pt summit - ~10:00 am, hung out for 5 min
KC summit - ~11:00 am, hung out for 30 min
Back to camp - 1:30 pm
Left for TH - 2:40 pm
Arrived at TH - 5:05 pm

Tips

1. I was glad to have my helmet. No close calls to swap stories about, but everybody knocks rocks down, even you will. (And helmets make you look sexy!)
2. Camping is better right before the waterfall at the west end of the lake because you have soft grass and running water nearby. But there are spots to camp on the east headwall, in the willows and you can get water from the stream above the waterfall. They don't look as comfortable and they are above the treeline.
3. Sometimes class 3 stable rock is safer to climb than class 2 loose crap. Besides, it's way more fun.
4. Don't drop your guard driving just because the road to/from the TH is class 2. Rocks hurt heads, shins, and tires.
5. Don't be misled by the overview map of Willow Creek Approach - it's nearly switchbacks the whole way, just some legs are longer than the others!
6. And this one is for the guy on Torrey's... the Kit Carson Avenue is wider than at least I imagined. We never hugged the mountain for safety, you can walk the entire thing without even looking down. The scramble up the gully does not feel exposed and is quite slanted. Even on the way down you can plant your feet on stable rock if you look for it. I encourage you to take your girlfriend up this and if she changes her mind, it's easy to go back. Just stay with her each step and I bet she'll have a great time!
7. Consider saving this one for fall when you're thinking of getting back into shape for snowboarding-great quad workout on the descent.

Day 1 - TH to Willow Lake camp site

We hit the trail from Willow Creek TH around 3:20 pm Friday night. The parking lot was already pretty full with probably less than 4 spots open. Even with the gentle breeze at 9,000 ft it was still a pretty warm afternoon. We only crossed paths with a handful of people, so most of the cars were for groups on another trail or ahead of us. In fact, even after arriving to our camp, we saw severalmore campers arrive (probably 6-8 more!). I imagine beautiful Friday nights can make for a packed Willow Lake area and finding camp sites that don't encroach on "personal space" a little more challenging.

The trail is well maintained and would be easy enough to do in the dark with just a headlamp. One word of caution, after you cross the stream in the beginning there is a marked trail junction. Don't go this way shown in the photo... you will get sleeeeeepy...

Instead, go to the left as indicated by the brown vertical sign with the up arrow.

After lots of switchbacks you finally get up a ridge. As you are greeted with an aerial view of a beautiful green meadow (lush this time of year) at the bottom of the valley, you lose some elevation. While thankful for this little break while I finally get used to the weight of my heavy pack, I cringed at the thought of looking forward to this on the way back to the car in 24 or so hours. (Spoiler alert: it really wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.)

Now even though this hike would make a great night hike, I recommend it be done in daylight, at least one way, so that you can enjoy the majestic mountain views and waterfalls.

After more switchbacks mixed with scenery we finally arrived to Willow Lake around 6:45 pm. I was quite ready to set my pack down, cool off and rest my legs, but just as the parking lot indicated, lots of campsites were already taken on this Friday night of a beautiful weekend.

So we went further up to the lake in search of potential campsites. After a quick look for sites and admiring the lake (it is filled by a 200-ft upper waterfall on the west and spills out by another lower waterfall on the east! How cool is that?!), we turned back due to lack of comfortable selection (and no camping within 300 feet of lake) and found a great spot near the stream just below the lake... and due to the proximity of the rushing water, just outside of hearing distance of a few other tents. We had shade, a fire circle, soft grass, trees to hang our food in, and the soothing sound of the moving water just outside the tent - perfect! The only photo I have of our campsite is actually of the site next door, but you can see the "kitchen" we shared with neighbors and get an idea of what to expect for your campsite.

These sites are located just on the right side of the trail when you are facing the lake. There are little paths to the creek right below the lower waterfall. We set up camp, cooked and ate dinner, and then enjoyed the reflection of the setting sun off the nearby rocks before calling it an early night at 9:00 pm.

Day 2 -Willow Lake camp to Challenger to Kit Carson to camp to TH

Even though the moon was full and bright, we chose to leave the campsite around 6 am to avoid using headlamps. We were pretty close to our goal and left around 6:10 am. Some reports make it sound very confusing to get around the lake. Perhaps because we hiked to the lake the previous day, we found no problems getting around to the north side; there is even a sign telling you where to turn. After hiking through some willows and a manageable bit of mud on the trail you get above the waterfall that's filling the lake and you can see the North Slope that you are about to climb and Kit Carson; Challenger is still hiding behind its ridge. There is a stream you have to cross with rocks conveniently placed for stepping on. (Photo near end, with descent description.) At this time of year it was pretty simple to cross with only a small jump to the first rock.

We could see ahead of us another couple starting their way up the North Slope and a guy with a small dog a little ways behind them. Summitpost.org's Red Tape section for Kit Carson says that pets are not allowed, but you should look into that more if you are wanting to bring a dog. We saw lots of dogs on the Willow Creek Approach trail on our descent.

The climb up the slope from above the lake looks quite doable (and it is). But unlike other climbs up the ridge I've experienced, this one actually is more challenging than it looks. Technically it was not really a problem, you can find ways to minimize the climb in the loose rocks. It just took longer to climb than I expected it to. Of course photos of the slope make it look more straightforward than it really is, and there is more than one way up/down it. Before you start the ascent you can see the snow-filled gully near where you should gain the ridge. See next photo taken from about 2/3 the way up.

Sometimes you'll see cairns and depending on where you end up, you may not. But there is no need to worry as long as you are comfortable and heading up towards the ridge. On the descent it was easier to see the worn-route and the trip overview on 14ers.com documents this climb pretty well although I probably should have followed it more closely. You kind of start to the left in the gully; it is pretty wide at the base of the North Slope. You eventually make your way over to a wall to the right - the wall shown in the photo above. Then about 2/3 the way up when you can see the snow gully (and your exit point), you start making your way across and up. About 15 minutes into the climb I put on my helmet as I was worried about rocks knocked down from my climbing partner (Eric) above me. During one of my breaks I noticed some large moving "rocks" and watched them make climbing up that wall look really easy.

As we gained the ridge, we lost sight of the snowfilled gully but knew that we were on the right side of it. Plus we could see a great exit point as shown in the photo below.

Once over the ridge you can finally see your destination - Challenger Point and the ridge you will hike to get there.

From here you scramble up to the ridge and if you are not fazed by the view (aka exposure) can either walk the ridge the rest of the way to the summit or descend a few feet on your left to a more comfortable path where you can grab on rocks if needed. The large rocks are quite stable up here and either option gives great views.

We summited Challenger Point by about 10 am. We had a snack, enjoyed the view, signed the register, took some photos and then focused on our next destination - Kit Carson.

Only summit photo of me on Challenger Pt (guess what's for lunch?)

The way to Kit Carson is very well defined and documented so I won't get long-winded about it; plus I didn't take many photos (darn it!). You have to descent a few hundred feet to reach the saddle between Challenger Point and Kit Carson. Then you walk on a wide simple ledge (called Kit Carson Avenue) that wraps around the peak, out of view from Challenger. The ledge is quite comfortable to walk on; if anyone has a fear of heights they should just look forward. But this ledge is wide enough that two people can walk side-by-side (if they are careful) as shown in the photo below.

There is nothing tricky to go around or over on these ledges and it really is Class 1 terrain. It gets even wider once through that notch in the previous photo. You can see how wide it is in the next photo.

You continue to descend along this ledge until you see a cairn that marks the gully to take to the summit. I initially felt the elevation loss was quite annoying but I was pleasantly surprised with how fun the scramble up the gully was; at least the way I went... I'm not sure how the other trip reports or 14ers.com route says to go, but I deliberately took a Class 3 way for fun and put my helmet on because I expected the climbers ahead of us to start their descents. Eric complained about some loose rocks in some places as he scrambled up. I highly recommend the stable rocks for the descent. The slope of this gully is quite tame so I never felt the exposure, especially as I focused on climbing up to the ridge.

We summited Kit Carson about 1 hour after leaving Challenger, a little after 11 am.

We had a snack, looked at Challenger's hikers, took some photos and then about 11:30 am we started our descent to camp.

I emphasize the other hikers not because of the lack of solitude that others complain about, but for the safety awareness that is important on these and other mountains. As careful and conscientious as we and (we hope) our fellow hikers are, it is very easy to knock down rocks on them or for them to send our way. This should be considered when planning and timing your hikes.

On the way down Kit Carson I stuck to my Class 3 rock as much as I could until I reached the Avenue. We passed several climbers on their way up. The largest rock I saw knocked down was here and it was due to an adventurous climber going up a wall that was not on the direct route. Fortunately, nobody was in the path of the rock.

Once back at the saddle, I chose to approach Challenger's ridge via a traverse of the North Slope, instead of going back up to summit. Eric pretty much went back up the way we came down and gained the ridge near the summit. His way may have been better (the grass is always greener, right?) than mine as I constantly worried about a rock fall taking me with it. I may have been needlessly worrying, but if I did it all over again I'd opt for heading back to the summit instead. After waiting for me to catch up on the ridge, we hiked back to the same point of the North Slope ridge where we crossed over in order to start the hike down. By this time we were just above the hikers that were ahead of us including the dude with the dog (now in his backpack). (And safety soapbox speech starts now!) There was something about the defenseless dog that made me even more paranoid about accidentally sending rocks down to them. We gave them what we thought was enough space before starting the journey down. They were going a bit slower than us so we caught up with them and I tried to go down a different way in order to avoid them... that is when I saw the biggest rock that I knocked down! My side-routing was not such a good idea afterall as I discovered more challenging terrain. Again, fortunately nobody was in the path of the rock. Watching out for climbers beneath you is necessary, but trying to find a route to avoid them can also be dangerous. At some point the guy with the dog took a break and we were allowed to pass him. My suggestion is to let those hikers that are faster than you pass you up and then wait a while to allow for a safe distance. And while I love seeing dogs on 14ers, please consider the situation you are putting your dog in - I'm just not sure they have the same situational awareness about their safety and falling rocks, and their helmetless heads are a lot closer to the tumbling rocks than ours are. Thanks to the other couple we eventually caught up with - they let us pass as soon as we were near them. (End of safety soapbox speech).

We were relieved to get off that slope and back on the flatter terrain, a nice relief for my leg muscles! The welcoming view of Willow Lake from above was breathtaking.

Once you get to the headwall you have to cross the creek again. With tired legs I wasn't sure I could trust, I borrowed Eric's trekking poles just to make sure I didn't go swimming in the creek. Eric had no problem jumping across and I probably would have been fine without the poles... maybe.

We took one last look above the lake's high waterfall before heading to camp.

We arrived to the camp site by 1:30 pm. After eating a snack and resting we broke down camp and hit the trail at 2:40pm. This is the only time I needed insect repellant; it took two mosquito bites (one of which I discovered later...) before I decided to finally apply it.

We made our way in the warm afternoon back down all those switchbacks. We passed lots of hikers on their way up. That short ascent I was dreading 24 hours earlier was not at all bad, and it was actually a refreshing break from the downhill walk. We were back to the trailhead by 5:10 pm with tired legs!

My trip report should end here but unfortunately our adventure continued. The road to the trailhead is considered Class 2, only because it's not paved. While avoiding ruts in the middle of the road, we veered too far over and struck a large rock. Fortunately the weather was nice, we were able to get to a flat spot in the road (almost to shade even!), and Eric is handy at changing flat tires! Glad the spare tire was able to handle the road!

And hopefully we didn't piss off too many people on our 60mph drive back to Denver! So comes to a close another beautiful Colorado weekend for Eric and me.

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Comments or Questions

mlayman09	Informative! 8/10/2014 7:43pm Great tips, especially liked the photo of the Avenue on Kit Carson. PS a road in the sangres ripped my catalytic converter off a few weeks ago...the sangres certainly aren't very vehicle friendly!
MissH	bummer! 8/10/2014 8:42pm Thanks, mlayman09. Bummer about the catalytic converter - both repairs sound expensive. Hopefully that's the worst that happens to our cars!
claybonnyman	Yup 8/11/2014 3:00am To this: ”Sometimes class 3 stable rock is safer to climb than class 2 loose crap. Besides, it‘s way more fun.” Totally.
klsbenzel	Ditto 8/11/2014 9:12pm We had a really similar experience (and timeline) for my group's hike of this route on Saturday/Sunday. You pretty much nailed the description. We left our camp around 6 a.m., summitted Challenger at 9, Kit Carson around 10, back to Challenger around 11, and returned to camp around 1:30 p.m (we're kind of slow descenders). Left camp at 3 and were back at the car at 5:30. We were so glad to have our helmets along! It was our first class 3 scramble. That Challenger descent is also no joke. I think route finding around the lake was easier than others describe because the Rocky Mountain Field Institute has been doing some work on the first mile around and past Willow Lake. They installed the sign sometime in the past two weeks. They plan to build a sustainable trail up to the Challenger ridge over the next 3-5 years ... an ambitious and necessary task!
MissH	Thanks! 8/12/2014 4:36pm Thanks Claybonnyman and Klsbenzel for the confirmations! I think building a sustainable trail up to the ridge is a great idea - for personal safety but also for keeping hikers from damaging the slope as we navigate around each other. Hope you guys had fun on your first Class 3 scramble - and congrats If you did have fun, then you'll love Kelso Ridge... 8)
dillonsarnelli	nice job Hannah! 8/12/2014 5:43pm you're everywhere this summer!
glenmiz	Deja Vu 8/12/2014 6:28pm I can't tell if that's a Honda Pilot in image 22 but we hit that same rock 22 hrs after you did with our blue Pilot. Thankfully, made 170 miles on the donut spare (at 50-55 mph) and, unfortunately, pissed many folks off on US 285. Guess it's time to pony up for a real spare tire. Nice report. Thanks.
jrs1965	Rock Location? 9/9/2014 6:10pm Hello, great report! I should be heading down there in the next few days. Can you provide any detail as to where the tire eating rock is located on the drive up to the TH? Thanks!
MissH	Yummy tires 9/10/2014 7:01pm Thanks, jrs. The rock was very much on the side of the road. Eric was trying to avoid a rut and swerved all the way to the right side of the road - when my tire met it's fate. It was when we were leaving, I'm guessing it was about a mile or so from the trailhead but I don't recall. Just don't go too far to the right (or left on your way up) and watch out for evil rocks if you do!
arpeggie	Very Nice! 8/9/2017 9:13pm Awesome report. Plan on doing it this upcoming weekend and this helped a lot!!!

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Tips

Day 1 - TH to Willow Lake camp site

Day 2 -Willow Lake camp to Challenger to Kit Carson to camp to TH

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