Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
Probably Fri. Rats, I have to take my cat to the vet on Fri. Anyway, that would make it 31 days and change!
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
I wonder if he'll do G&T from Loveland Pass, or go around to Steven's Gulch.
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
Nice!!justiner wrote:or via... Montezuma!
Then Argentine Pass back over? How's that on a bike?
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
The east side of Argentine is fine on a bike - it's just a rough, albeit steep 4wd road. Getting to Argentine though would mean basically sumitting Edwards, then going down to the saddle of Edwards and Argentine, all of which is pretty much off trail.
...could just take the standard trail down? Is it open to bikes? the TH picket at the summer TH should state that.
...could just take the standard trail down? Is it open to bikes? the TH picket at the summer TH should state that.
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
So are we to assume that he climbed Bross and just doesn't want to publicize it? After seeing the BS that Jurek had to deal with at the end of his AT record it's probably not worth bringing attention to trespassing. If he didn't hit Bross than no FKT, right? Justiner, I assume you tagged it. I'm hoping/betting he did bag it.
I'm not trying to create controversy and hesitated even posting this. It's been awesome to follow his journey.
I'm not trying to create controversy and hesitated even posting this. It's been awesome to follow his journey.
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
No, if it's trespassing it should be excluded.
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
It's an interesting choice not to summit Bross (or at least say he did not summit...). I "officially" ascended to the highest, legal point you can get to Bross, before you would go over the private property line, as I could best figure out by my GPS + map to "count" Bross. That point was something Bill proposed about as the, "legal summit" (I believe) There's a cairn/windscreen when I was up there, marking the point. You can do your own research to see where the private property line supposedly is.
I did it this way because those are the rules I gave myself, before doing my challenge:
My idea was that getting as high as possible - and certainly higher than 14,000' was a good compromise between summiting but breaking the law (which is also against my rules) and skipping it all together *shrugs*. The route is different though, if you go for Bross - everyone loves that descent when making a loop, right?!
To be fair, Joe never said he was following my rules, or going after my "record" - just that he was doing a similar challenge, so it's up to him on what he does, and how he does it.
Joe has stated that,
And I believe he's succeeding in that
I did it this way because those are the rules I gave myself, before doing my challenge:
http://longranger.justinsimoni.com/tour14er/rules/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Bross is the odd-mountain out, as the summit is on private land that is not officially accessible to the public – it’s perfectly fine for this Challenge to ascend to the highest, legal height you are allowed to.There is no real physical difficulty after the private property line, that a Challenger will miss. Bross is Bross.
My idea was that getting as high as possible - and certainly higher than 14,000' was a good compromise between summiting but breaking the law (which is also against my rules) and skipping it all together *shrugs*. The route is different though, if you go for Bross - everyone loves that descent when making a loop, right?!
To be fair, Joe never said he was following my rules, or going after my "record" - just that he was doing a similar challenge, so it's up to him on what he does, and how he does it.
Joe has stated that,
http://alpine-works.com/2016/07/the-tour-de-14ers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Adhering to the “do it yourself” bikepacking racing ethic, I will receive no outside assistance, relying only on small towns for resupply. I will employ light and fast tactics and carry a minimal amount of gear. The objective of the trip is to inspire people to pursue local adventures under their own power.
And I believe he's succeeding in that
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
That is an interesting dichotomy, trespassing RR right of way. I couldn't care one way or the other though, go Joe.pbakwin wrote:I mean, he rode his bike on the Durango-Silverton train track, for goodness sake! What the...?!
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
His GPS track doesn't show him being on the mountain at all. So either he left his GPS on Lincoln, went out and back to Bross, picked it up again and descended, or he just didn't do it.waolsen wrote:So are we to assume that he climbed Bross and just doesn't want to publicize it?
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
Joe has stated that,
And I believe he's succeeding in that [/quote]
I agree! You have inspired me as well. I'm blown away by the logistics and commitment of this project.
http://alpine-works.com/2016/07/the-tour-de-14ers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Adhering to the “do it yourself” bikepacking racing ethic, I will receive no outside assistance, relying only on small towns for resupply. I will employ light and fast tactics and carry a minimal amount of gear. The objective of the trip is to inspire people to pursue local adventures under their own power.
And I believe he's succeeding in that [/quote]
I agree! You have inspired me as well. I'm blown away by the logistics and commitment of this project.
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Re: Joe Grant's Tour de 14er
Looking at his times I wouldn't think this happened. But he is incredibly fast!ezabielski wrote:His GPS track doesn't show him being on the mountain at all. So either he left his GPS on Lincoln, went out and back to Bross, picked it up again and descended, or he just didn't do it.waolsen wrote:So are we to assume that he climbed Bross and just doesn't want to publicize it?