Same question of motivation in the Lockte matter. Motivation aside, given the proliferation of media, video, internet, etc, not sure how people think the truth will not come out.Sean Nunn wrote:I read the entire article, and there is nothing in it about their motivation for fakery. I am not sure why anyone would fake climbing Everest. It has been done so many times, by so many people, that I cannot imagine how anyone would stand to gain financially from a run-of-the-mill Everest summitting. I suppose you might become famous in your hometown, but who on earth could live with knowing that the only reason you are "famous" is that everyone thinks you did something that you really didn't do?
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They wanted to lay claim to being the first married couple from India to summit Everest. India has 'rewarded' Everest summiters so there is a lot of attraction and benefit to become famous this way. BY the way, this couple has been previously accused of falsifying summits.derekesq wrote:Same question of motivation in the Lockte matter. Motivation aside, given the proliferation of media, video, internet, etc, not sure how people think the truth will not come out.Sean Nunn wrote:I read the entire article, and there is nothing in it about their motivation for fakery.
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I'm terrified that the authorities find out that I faked my summit of Mt. Sherman.
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Or worse, that you really did climb Brosswineguy wrote:I'm terrified that the authorities find out that I faked my summit of Mt. Sherman.
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Sadly the list is endless of people who fake their background/accomplishments, the worst to former military guys like me are the ones that claim valor medals when they were really remf's or try to pass off as SF/Delta/SEAL/Ranger/Force Recon or all of the above at once!Sean Nunn wrote:... but who on earth could live with knowing that the only reason you are "famous" is that everyone thinks you did something that you really didn't do?
The pictures of some of these are truly staggering in their display of ineptitude.
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same reason people do reality shows or do stupid stunts to get on tosh.0. Some people crave attentionSean Nunn wrote:I read the entire article, and there is nothing in it about their motivation for fakery. I am not sure why anyone would fake climbing Everest. It has been done so many times, by so many people, that I cannot imagine how anyone would stand to gain financially from a run-of-the-mill Everest summitting. I suppose you might become famous in your hometown, but who on earth could live with knowing that the only reason you are "famous" is that everyone thinks you did something that you really didn't do?
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The very first claim to have summited an 8000 meter peak - Annapurna by Herzog - was fake.
David Roberts has written about this. I do not know if it is included in Roberts book mentioned by Kaiman.
David Roberts has written about this. I do not know if it is included in Roberts book mentioned by Kaiman.
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Herzog/Lachenal certainly climbed Annapurna. Herzog def. also admitted that his book contained many made up parts, but I don't think anyone doubts the claim that the team did summit.The very first claim to have summited an 8000 meter peak - Annapurna by Herzog - was fake.
When I think of fake climbs, the one true champion is Maestri and Cerro Torre.
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David Roberts wrote of this in the Climbing Magazine December 15, 1997 - February 1, 1998 issue.
I tore out the article and keep it in my copy of Herzog's book Annapurna.
Roberts also wrote a full book about the subject.
I can mail anyone a copy of the article should they desire. I do not know if it is available online.
I tore out the article and keep it in my copy of Herzog's book Annapurna.
Roberts also wrote a full book about the subject.
I can mail anyone a copy of the article should they desire. I do not know if it is available online.
"Rocks, mountains, snow and ice: what more do we desire?" - Reinhard Karl
“I breathed in the air on the summit and liked it better than the air below.”
“I breathed in the air on the summit and liked it better than the air below.”
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Roberts (at least in his book) did not say that the ascent was fake. He said the opposite. What he did say is that the official report was watered down and didn't contain all the "dirty laundry".osprey wrote:David Roberts wrote of this in the Climbing Magazine December 15, 1997 - February 1, 1998 issue.
I tore out the article and keep it in my copy of Herzog's book Annapurna.
Roberts also wrote a full book about the subject.
I can mail anyone a copy of the article should they desire. I do not know if it is available online.
Also, even if he did say that (which seems doubtful?), David Roberts is not the only authority on mountaineering (plus he would have had to reverse his position). In fact his own books of his own trips contain many exaggerations. I still like his books though.
I wouldn't mind if you emailed me the article though.
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Here is Robert's (partial) book online:
https://books.google.com/books?id=RI4xK ... ne&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It says several times that Herzog reached the summit.
https://books.google.com/books?id=RI4xK ... ne&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It says several times that Herzog reached the summit.
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Justiner and Scott P are correct.
I re read the Climbing Magazine article and realize I have misinterpreted the whole article since I first read it in 1998.
I retract my statement and agree that they did reach the summit.
I re read the Climbing Magazine article and realize I have misinterpreted the whole article since I first read it in 1998.
I retract my statement and agree that they did reach the summit.
"Rocks, mountains, snow and ice: what more do we desire?" - Reinhard Karl
“I breathed in the air on the summit and liked it better than the air below.”
“I breathed in the air on the summit and liked it better than the air below.”