Barr Trail Conditions

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Barr Trail Conditions

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Hi everyone,

I was hoping to head down to Manitou Springs and hike on the Barr Trail tomorrow. What are conditions like? I was shooting to make it up to about the A-Frame. Will Yak-Traxs be sufficient, or do I need snowshoes too? Thanks!

Phil
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I was up there on 12/27. No snowshoes required. Definitely recommend traction (eg, YakTrax, Microspikes, etc). My notes on the conditions to tree line that day:
Packed snow/ice up to where the Incline cutoff meets the Barr Trail. Then packed snow to Barr Camp. Above Barr Camp, still had a set of footsteps to follow until I was probably within a mile of the A Frame. Broke trail above there, but I was only sinking in about 4-6 inches most of the time. Nearing the A Frame, finding the trail became more difficult. Just past tree line, I completely lost the trail
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Hi John,

Thanks so much for the info! I appreciate it.
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I summited Pikes Peak yesterday (30 Dec 2009) via Barr Trail. You definitely do not need snowshoes. As John stated, yak-trax or microspikes would be sufficient. I shot some short video clips using my powershot camera, which I'm including here. You will be able to see exactly what the trail looks like. You'll have to excuse my cheesy narrating, and summit euphoria, but I was shooting the video clips for family members! In one of the video clips, I state that it's "starting to snow," and that the forecast calls "for snow later." There was, however, no significant accumulation of snow and the trail will be smooth sailing. In addition, the AdAmAn Club summited today, so the trail should be nicely "trampled down!" Have fun, and Happy New Year

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Thanks so much for the info. Great video! Congrats on making the summit yesterday!
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Kman videos are really great, told us what to bring for NY trip.
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Thanks Kman for the great videos. Trying to talk my daughter into a 2-5-10 Birthday hike for her. Will be our 1st winter 14er.
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barbiesue53 wrote:Thanks Kman for the great videos. Trying to talk my daughter into a 2-5-10 Birthday hike for her. Will be our 1st winter 14er.

Hey! Thanks for enjoying my (cheesy!) video clips! Sounds like you have about a month to coax your daughter into that birthday hike! Climbing a 14er in Winter can be an awesome experience (usually!). Pikes Peak, IMO, is a good one for a first Winter ascent. I'm not sure how familiar you are with that mountain, but you don't have to tackle the entire 26 miles in one day. You can stay at Barr Camp http://www.barrcamp.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and break the climb up into two days (or more), as an option. You can also consider the "back side" of the mountain, and hike/climb the Crags Trail http://www.14ers.com/routemain.php?rout ... Pikes+Peak" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Just be aware that from now, until the foreseeable future, the trail can be very icy. I'm not saying you will need crampons, but definitely some sort of traction device (i.e. Yak-Trax, or Kahtoola Microspikes). On the 29th of Dec '09 (the day before I summited), there was a helicopter rescue on Barr Trail. A guy slipped, and fell because of the ice around the 12,200 ft. level. I guess he was hurt pretty bad. Not sure why it didn't make the local media as a news story, but it was a big event for the caretakers at Barr Camp who went to assist.

Keep us posted on on whether the trip takes place or not!
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kman wrote:I summited Pikes Peak yesterday (30 Dec 2009) via Barr Trail.
Sounds pretty irresponsible to do it alone. I recommend in the future you take someone else with you...like your brother.
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KSherpa wrote:
kman wrote:I summited Pikes Peak yesterday (30 Dec 2009) via Barr Trail.
Sounds pretty irresponsible to do it alone. I recommend in the future you take someone else with you...like your brother.

Hey Newbie! Next time you can get a "kitchen pass," you're welcome to come along!
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kman wrote:
KSherpa wrote:
kman wrote:I summited Pikes Peak yesterday (30 Dec 2009) via Barr Trail.
Sounds pretty irresponsible to do it alone. I recommend in the future you take someone else with you...like your brother.

Hey Newbie! Next time you can get a "kitchen pass," you're welcome to come along!

Middle of the week hike calls for a "Timesheet Pass". I'll make it happen next time. Cool vids...
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. On the 29th of Dec '09 (the day before I summited), there was a helicopter rescue on Barr Trail. A guy slipped, and fell because of the ice around the 12,200 ft. level. I guess he was hurt pretty bad. Not sure why it didn't make the local media as a news story, but it was a big event for the caretakers at Barr Camp who went to assist.

The gentleman who was injured was just above 2 Mile when the layer of snow he was walking on moved and he slid downhill about 50' (he had appropriate equipment for the hike). Due to his injuries, the onset of hypothermia, and the difficulty of a nightime winter evac, he we flown out by Flight for Life. We were able to get the helo in before dark and with the help of Neal and Teresa at Barr Camp he was safely transported to the hospital and has since been released.

Yes, January is when the trail above A-Frame gradually disappears and travel to the summit typically requires crampons, ice axe, snowshoes and the necessary skills to use them. Conditions improve around April.

Thanks,
Larry
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