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Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby robnrhea » Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:31 am

An incredible story on the front of the Denver Post today. Amazing survival and rescue
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22909077/colorado-skier-felt-life-fading-during-3-hours

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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby colokeith » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:33 am

crazy!! thanks for sharing
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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby chrismjx » Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:31 pm

Amazing. 3 hours is insane. One of my biggest fears right there...

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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby jeremy27 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:22 am

So it sounds like the fact that his AvaLung mouth-piece was in his breathing space made the difference. Did anyone else get that impression? Is that plausible?

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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby Jim Davies » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:57 am

That's the impression I got. Also his body temperature was 72 degrees when he got to the hospital. Near-drowning victims have survived 40 minutes submerged in cold water, so that might have helped.
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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby Steve Climber » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:23 am

Jim Davies wrote:That's the impression I got. Also his body temperature was 72 degrees when he got to the hospital. Near-drowning victims have survived 40 minutes submerged in cold water, so that might have helped.


Cooler body temp = slower heart rate = slower breathing and less use of O2?
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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby climbingaggie03 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:41 am

aboynamedmargrette wrote:
Jim Davies wrote:That's the impression I got. Also his body temperature was 72 degrees when he got to the hospital. Near-drowning victims have survived 40 minutes submerged in cold water, so that might have helped.


Cooler body temp = slower heart rate = slower breathing and less use of O2?


that's the basic idea, the cooler temp reduces the body and cells metabolism which decreases consumption of O2 and also decreases the output of wastes that build up and become toxic, like CO2 ect

Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby Steve Climber » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:26 am

climbingaggie03 wrote:
aboynamedmargrette wrote:
Jim Davies wrote:That's the impression I got. Also his body temperature was 72 degrees when he got to the hospital. Near-drowning victims have survived 40 minutes submerged in cold water, so that might have helped.


Cooler body temp = slower heart rate = slower breathing and less use of O2?


that's the basic idea, the cooler temp reduces the body and cells metabolism which decreases consumption of O2 and also decreases the output of wastes that build up and become toxic, like CO2 ect


wow. slowly freezing to death may have played a part in saving his life...who'dathunk? :wft:
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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby screeman57 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:17 pm

Jeez--I hope if I'm ever slowly dying I also slowly freeze to death, and thus eventually survive.
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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby Steve Climber » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:24 pm

screeman57 wrote:Jeez--I hope if I'm ever slowly dying I also slowly freeze to death, and thus eventually survive.


+1
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Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby climbingaggie03 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:00 am

yeah, I suppose there are worse ways to go, the best part is that it's believed towards the end you start to feel warm, people that have died from hypothermia are often found in various states of undress fueling the theory that victims start to feel hot and think they need to cool off. Also you tend to not think very clearly when you're hypothermic so I kind of think that you may not realize the end is near which I think sounds nice.

Re: Less than 1% chance for survival

Postby Steve Climber » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:30 am

climbingaggie03 wrote:yeah, I suppose there are worse ways to go, the best part is that it's believed towards the end you start to feel warm, people that have died from hypothermia are often found in various states of undress fueling the theory that victims start to feel hot and think they need to cool off. Also you tend to not think very clearly when you're hypothermic so I kind of think that you may not realize the end is near which I think sounds nice.


This article was posted on here a while back. At the risk of picking the lowest hanging pun-fruit, it's a...ahem...chilling account. Definitely worth a read.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/As-Freezing-Persons-Recollect-the-Snow--First-Chill--Then-Stupor--Then-the-Letting-Go.html
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