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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Presto » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:54 pm

by Papillon » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:21 pm

Presto wrote:+1 ... anyone worth their weight in beer knows it all comes down to ABV and IBU and Size.


So what you are saying then is a growler of Elevation IPA (11.2%) served along Lincoln Creek Road on a summer night is about as good as it gets? :wink:


8) That was such a good night, wasn't it ... between that and the taco bar :-$ :iluvu:

By the way ... you had the size and the ABV ... IBU: 100+ :wft: :-" :iluvbeer:
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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Bean » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:06 pm

Presto wrote:
by lordhelmut » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:42 pm

Good pack beer. Easier to pack 4 than 6. Packs a bigger punch. A 16oz can usually puts you in the state of mind you are hoping for, whereas a 12oz leaves you hoping for a little more, IMO.


+1 ... anyone worth their weight in beer knows it all comes down to ABV and IBU and Size. :-$ :iluvbeer: Yes, in spite of what you've been told ... size does matter. :-"


There's more to beer than just ABV and IBU and quantity. Counterpoint to "packs a bigger punch" is Shift.
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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby lordhelmut » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:09 pm

Bean wrote:
Presto wrote:
by lordhelmut » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:42 pm

Good pack beer. Easier to pack 4 than 6. Packs a bigger punch. A 16oz can usually puts you in the state of mind you are hoping for, whereas a 12oz leaves you hoping for a little more, IMO.


+1 ... anyone worth their weight in beer knows it all comes down to ABV and IBU and Size. :-$ :iluvbeer: Yes, in spite of what you've been told ... size does matter. :-"


There's more to beer than just ABV and IBU and quantity. Counterpoint to "packs a bigger punch" is Shift.


There's usually (not always, but usually) a very close correlation between beer that tastes really good and its ABV and IBU's.

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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Presto » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:20 pm

by Bean » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:06 pm

There's more to beer than just ABV and IBU and quantity. Counterpoint to "packs a bigger punch" is Shift.


Sorry, Bean, I'm just not a lager type of gal. Typically, when I go to a brewery for the first time, I'll do a sampler ... try everything. Even the Pilsners, lagers, reds, wheats, hefeweizens, etc. I like to get a feel for the place, the brewers, the brews.

However, my preference is HOPS. The more ... the merrier. So, ABV and IBU are the driving force in beers such as that (i.e., IPAs, Pales, et.al.)

When packing beers (in a backpack), there d*mn well better be a punch. It's my reward for what I've put out. Just sayin ... :-" What's the point of me drinking 15 beers, peeing a whole bunch, and ... what ... no punch?

Just kidding about the 15 beers ... h*ll, I'd be on the floor ... or at least the ground ... and probably losing my beer. :wink:
As if none of us have ever come back with a cool, quasi-epic story instead of being victim to tragic rockfall, a fatal stumble, a heart attack, an embolism, a lightning strike, a bear attack, collapsing cornice, some psycho with an axe, a falling tree, carbon monoxide, even falling asleep at the wheel getting to a mountain. If you can't accept the fact that sometimes "s**t happens", then you live with the illusion that your epic genius and profound wilderness intelligence has put you in total and complete control of yourself, your partners, and the mountain. How mystified you'll be when "s**t happens" to you! - FM

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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby jblyth » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:26 pm

Presto wrote: However, my preference is HOPS. The more ... the merrier.


Well said =D>

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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby pvnisher » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:27 pm

If you can find it, I highly recommend trying a gruit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruit

Unhopped and mildly narcotic. It is, in fact, the ORIGINAL ale, as "ale" used to refer to beer which was unhopped. What a turn it has taken to nowadays when IPA is an ale.

I drank gallons of Weekapaug Gruit at Cambridge Brewing Company (right on the corner of the MIT campus), and it is, by far, the best alcoholic beverage I have ever imbibed. Truly a mindblowing experience.

cambridgebrewing.com/beer/description/weekapaug_gruita

And I know it's technically not a beer, but since Mead is considerably easier to find than Gruit, I'd also recommend giving that a shot.

In both cases, the ancients knew what they were doing.

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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Dukietown » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:32 pm

Presto wrote:However, my preference is HOPS. The more ... the merrier.

I'm 100% the opposite. I just can't do super hoppy beers and don't at all understand the appeal. However I'm with you on packing in something that packs a punch! Ultralight punch: http://www.oskarblues.com/the-brews/ten-fidy
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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Bean » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:36 pm

lordhelmut wrote:There's usually (not always, but usually) a very close correlation between beer that tastes really good and its ABV and IBU's.


I've made some godawful beer. ABV was decent, IBUs probably at least in the 40s...undrinkable. Also had some terribad beer at GABF that was very high ABV and very high IBUs. But I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down - if I'm hauling beer with me in the backcountry it better not be some 3.2 nonsense. And ABV/IBU needs to balance, and my preferences are towards a lack of excessive citrusiness.

pvnisher, ale = top fermenting, lager = bottom fermenting. Nothing to do with IBUs, ABV, plato, or gravity.
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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby highpilgrim » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:42 pm

Dukietown wrote: I just can't do super hoppy beers and don't at all understand the appeal.


Practice makes perfect.

:-D Give it a shot. It'll grow on you.
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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Presto » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:43 pm

by Bean » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:36 pm

I've made some godawful beer. ABV was decent, IBUs probably at least in the 40s...undrinkable. Also had some terribad beer at GABF that was very high ABV and very high IBUs. But I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down - if I'm hauling beer with me in the backcountry it better not be some 3.2 nonsense. And ABV/IBU needs to balance, and my preferences are towards a lack of excessive citrusiness.

pvnisher, ale = top fermenting, lager = bottom fermenting. Nothing to do with IBUs, ABV, plato, or gravity.


A friend of ours brews beer ... has been for about 15 years. He keeps a log and everything. He even made a mead one time. We've lived through some crappy beers over the years, but those are becoming more isolated. He's got a mighty fine winter brew coming up ... he makes us 2 cases (bombers) ... called Winter Wonder. Love that stuff. He's got a house pale that's pretty good.

I have always appreciated people who get into the science of the beer and take on the challenge of brewing their own. I'm barely trying to get interested in some of that ... it used to just be an interest in ABV because I connected it to what I preferred when drinking a beer. Then, discovered the IBU aspect. Gravity .. I'm starting to look into that.
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Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby pvnisher » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:44 pm

Bean wrote:pvnisher, ale = top fermenting, lager = bottom fermenting. Nothing to do with IBUs, ABV, plato, or gravity.


That's what it means *now*.
Ale used to mean unhopped. At least in the 1500s in Britain.

See also "real ale". Unfiltered, unpasteurized, un-carbonated, and mostly served at cellar temperature.
It took me a while to come about to the British ales, but I now vastly prefer them to the carbonated American ones.
I don't know if you'll be able to find a real ale in the US, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ale#Real_ale

Re: Favorite Beer?

Postby Bean » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:48 pm

pvnisher wrote:
Bean wrote:pvnisher, ale = top fermenting, lager = bottom fermenting. Nothing to do with IBUs, ABV, plato, or gravity.


That's what it means *now*.
Ale used to mean unhopped. At least in the 1500s in Britain.

See also "real ale". Unfiltered, unpasteurized, un-carbonated, and mostly served at cellar temperature.
It took me a while to come about to the British ales, but I now vastly prefer them to the carbonated American ones.
I don't know if you'll be able to find a real ale in the US, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_ale#Real_ale

I think you'd like Hogshead Brewing, 29th & Tennyson.

FYI there are a number of breweries around the Denver area that have casks either all the time or at least semi-regularly.
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