Bushwhacking Outerwear

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Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby TheOtherIndian » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:25 pm

I recently noticed that my nanopuff had many holes, most likely from bushwhacking and going through deadfall. It has been my go-to outer layer on most hikes throughout the year because it is light and warm enough with other layers. Frankly, on most occasions I'd prefer not carrying a hard shell just for bushwhacking for 1-2 miles of the entire hike. What do you all generally use while bushwhacking or going through messy deadfall?

Any techniques to prevent tear other than being 'super careful'?
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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby Mindy » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:40 pm

I can help you fix those tears, as I too just shredded my puffy vest on rock. I discovered this:

and can report it does the trick! It comes in rolls or patches.

I have also read others put on cheap sweatshirts over puffys to prevent tearing...

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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby geojed » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:52 pm

This is what I prefer to wear/use. Comes in very handy in the willows. It doesn't really obey LNT principles but I consider that a feature not a bug.
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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby B[3] » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:03 pm

This is what I prefer to wear/use. Comes in very handy in the willows. It doesn't really obey LNT principles but I consider that a feature not a bug.

Might be a bit cumbersome for daily use--maybe save it for those occasions of extreme willowing (ie near Twin Lakes in the Weminuche). :lol:
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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby TravelingMatt » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:17 pm

The willows aren't there. Keep repeating, there are no willows there are no willows there are no willows and I promise you they'll disappear.

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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby Presto » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:25 pm

by TravelingMatt » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:17 pm
... Keep repeating, there are no willows there are no willows there are no willows ...

And then click the heels of your little red shoes .... :-"
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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby dsunwall » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:32 pm

anything besides a nanopuff would be better. down is only for camp or belaying.

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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby EatinHardtack » Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:36 pm

Yeah that D8 in geojed's pic would take care of willows, trees, rocks, houses, etc. Although with a heated cab you wouldn't need a nanopuff.

Anything is better than down for bushwhacking.
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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby Kiefer » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:52 pm

Dwight is spot on. DON'T wear your nano-puff or any down when bushwhacking. As you discovered, you'll rip it to shreds.
I just came off Christ Mountain, Pt. 7725 and Pt. 7420 earlier today...bushwhacking the whole way cross country. I had a mont-bell puffy with me
but never broke it out of my pack. Kept warm enough simply by keeping on the move.
I wear heavy hiking boots, jeans (Denim) and something long-sleeve (NOT fleece). If you absolutely need an outer layer, bring
a softshell. Wear clothing that will be somewhat durable, punture or scratch/snag resistant.

Actually, I've been wearing a lot more denim lately. It gets a bad rap but I've always been rather comfy in it.

Edit: After reading your post, I'm assuming you mean more low-altitude stuff?

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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby ChrisRoberts » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:00 pm

I wear shorts and a hoodie.
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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby Derek » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:17 pm

dsunwall wrote:anything besides a nanopuff would be better. down is only for camp or belaying.

Yup. Down stays in the pack for bushwhacks. I made a dumb decision a couple weeks ago to drop my pack and wear my down for the final 30' to a summit. Even the small scramble to the summit caused a tear. If you really want to wear the puff, maybe a cheap shell to go over it. But that would probably just add to the overheating...

Best option would probably be to leave the down in the pack for bushwhack sections of a hike, then put it back on when the coast is clear.

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Re: Bushwhacking Outerwear

Postby RoanMtnMan » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:36 pm

dsunwall wrote: down is only for camp or belaying.

Not always. Big peaks require big jackets unfortunately. But I agree that if one is bushwacking (which means sub-treeline), down is not a necessary garment. When I get cold on the move, I like to use a technique called "speed the heck up". If out hunting and moving slower some Filson, Carhartt, or Walmart gear over my more expensive clothing does the protection job.
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