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Yeah... that makes a lot of sense actually, thanks.
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seannunn wrote:Just curious as to whether the top 100 list includes Sunlight Spire? Or is there not enough of a drop between it and Sunlight to make it a "true" summit (whatever that is)?

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Its not included, its only about a 215' drop. Its not even an officially named summit, "Sunlight Spire" is just a nickname.

On the other end of the list, based on 300' of prominence the list "stops" with Dallas Peak as #100 at 13,809'.
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The CMC publishes the names of people who report finishing various lists each year. The most recent lists can be found at
http://www.cmc.org/Upload/ArticlesDirectory/18.pdf , beginning on p. 17.
According to that, 162 people have now registered with the CMC as having finished the 100 highest, and 18 have registered as having finished the 13ers, the most recent being Steve Gladbach.
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Let's be honest. No one is going to get fame or glory from finishing either list so the choice of whether to let someone know is ultimately a personal decision. As far as I'm aware the 13er completion list is completely accurate. I have no idea the margin of error on the high 100 list but 50% wouldn't surprise me. The 14er completion list is extremely inaccurate and I'd guess that even saying it's under by 2-3x might be an underestimate. I know of a few 14er finishers who never reported and I'm sure many others do too.

I'd guess that if you cut off the lists at 1990 and maybe even to 2000 they are fairly accurate. There weren't many resources besides the CMC and not nearly as many people out climbing.
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Jon Frohlich wrote:Let's be honest. No one is going to get fame or glory from finishing either list so the choice of whether to let someone know is ultimately a personal decision. As far as I'm aware the 13er completion list is completely accurate. I have no idea the margin of error on the high 100 list but 50% wouldn't surprise me. The 14er completion list is extremely inaccurate and I'd guess that even saying it's under by 2-3x might be an underestimate. I know of a few 14er finishers who never reported and I'm sure many others do too.

I'd guess that if you cut off the lists at 1990 and maybe even to 2000 they are fairly accurate. There weren't many resources besides the CMC and not nearly as many people out climbing.
Yep, and not to mention that not everyone uses the same "list".

I did not register with the CMC when I finished the 14ers, mainly because my list is different from theirs. For one, they include an unranked peak that I haven't climbed (North Maroon). However, on their highest 100 list, they don't include North Maroon (or El Diente) and they DO included Challenger (which they don't include as a 14er!). How can you have an accurate tally of finishers when they have two different groups of 14ers on each of their own lists?

All the more reason to climb for your own personal goals and not for fame or glory :wink:
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Chicago Transplant wrote: Yep, and not to mention that not everyone uses the same "list".

I did not register with the CMC when I finished the 14ers, mainly because my list is different from theirs. For one, they include an unranked peak that I haven't climbed (North Maroon). However, on their highest 100 list, they don't include North Maroon (or El Diente) and they DO included Challenger (which they don't include as a 14er!). How can you have an accurate tally of finishers when they have two different groups of 14ers on each of their own lists?
A good point too. I'm using the list of 118 ranked and unranked peaks over 13,800. Some want to strictly do the ranked 100. Some want to do 59, 58, 54, or 53. I'm sure the highest 200/300/400 get even more complicated. What is finishing exactly? :) What did Ellingwood and Blaurock climb? I'm guessing it wasn't 58.
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Chicago Transplant wrote:Yep, and not to mention that not everyone uses the same "list".

I did not register with the CMC when I finished the 14ers, mainly because my list is different from theirs. For one, they include an unranked peak that I haven't climbed (North Maroon). However, on their highest 100 list, they don't include North Maroon (or El Diente) and they DO included Challenger (which they don't include as a 14er!). How can you have an accurate tally of finishers when they have two different groups of 14ers on each of their own lists?

All the more reason to climb for your own personal goals and not for fame or glory :wink:
Personally, I'm looking for a list of the top 100 that includes N. Maroon & El D--so that Dallas would be bumped into the second hundred.
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Thanks JimR. That was the kind of data that I was looking for. 162 finishers gives me a rough idea of the accomplishment. Even if it is off by quite a bit, it is still probably less than 500. It is not very many people considering that there are about 300 million people in the United States. That's one finisher for every 600,000 to 700,000 people in the USA. Cool.
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Given that the majority of the 100 highest are <4th class hikes, completing this list is indeed a hiking accomplishment, no doubt about that. By no means trying to diminish the accomplishment of that goal (which I have not done and have zero interest in doing), if there's the interest in a singular (?) accomplishment, I don't know of anyone who has summitted all of Colorado's 5th class summits (ie peaks which have a 5th class route as the easiest summit). I'm probably wrong on that, but John Prater has a cool http://www.summitpost.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; page listing them all, I think numbering 50+. Some of them are apparently pretty lousy, loose talus hikes with a low 5th summit scramble (e.g. some of the San Juan 5.0-5.4 peaks), some are sorta bouldering problems (Cheesman Peak, Peak T, etc.), but some are pretty cool actual peaks/spires (Lizard Head, Sunlight Spire, etc.). Some are really tough (Steamboat Rock, 5.10 A3), some may be first ascents. I've done a very few, but if there's a list to complete with bragging rights I think that may be it. What do y'all think?
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I think it is an interesting idea TomPierce. I have climbed, or will climb the technical peaks that are aesthetic to me. At some point though, with all of the truly fine rock to climb in this state, you have to ask yourself, "why am I climbing this choss pile?" I feel that the 100 highest peaks gives you a great taste of Colorado's high country, provides a nice base for mountaineering skills, and contains plenty of variety if you choose. Cool suggestion though, I like it.
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Here is the LOJ list of CO fifth class peaks. It shows ranked and unraked 5th class peaks.
http://listsofjohn.com/PeakStats/Conten ... p?State=CO" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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