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How young is too young for puppies on trail?

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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby pills2619 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:04 am

self centered yes but I don't do it to be inconsiderate I don't do anything for the sake of being inconsiderate but as I explained to someone who pm'd me about this topic. I honestly feel that it's cruel to not allow your dog off leash when appropriate and I cant think of a better place to do that then the mountains of Colorado.
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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby Wildernessjane » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:26 am

pills2619 wrote:self centered yes but I don't do it to be inconsiderate I don't do anything for the sake of being inconsiderate but as I explained to someone who pm'd me about this topic. I honestly feel that it's cruel to not allow your dog off leash when appropriate and I cant think of a better place to do that then the mountains of Colorado.


I think it's a bit dramatic to make the claim that it's "cruel" to not allow your dog off leash. Obviously, what you mean by " when appropriate" is left open to interpretation. In my experience, dog owners who have not put the extensive time and energy into training their dogs feel the most strongly about keeping their dogs off leash. Dogs who are truly under voice command and have been leash trained are often a pleasure to have on or off leash. I would argue it IS cruel to subject wildlife (especially marmots, pica, and ptarmigan) to your dog just because it is more convenient for you to let him run free. By the way, my attitude about this topic changed after one of my two was nearly mauled to death by a Rottweiler out on trail (the guy said his dog had never shown aggression and he didn't even have a collar or leash with him).

Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby ChicagoMike » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:27 am

Back to the original topic. We ended up taking him on a very short hike up at Brainard Lake just to get him outside in the snow and also to work on some obedience. He definitely let us know when he was done and as I mentioned before we didn't want to push to hard.

As far as the leash comments. I totally understand why a dog should be leashed around others and on popular hiking trails. It is just a good thing to be able to control your dog in certain situations. That being said I want him to be able to ski, and climb up class 1/2 14ers where he will not be on a leash all the time. Right now I am putting in a lot of work on come, sit, stay so hopefully when he is in those situations he can react appropriately.

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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby zoriloco » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:41 am

If only people followed the rules...... :roll:

TallGrass wrote:
zoriloco wrote:I would also suggest you dont bring him out until you are completely sure the dog acts on command.
Isn't that what a leash is for? :roll:


To you Sir, Thank you very much! We need more people that think this way.

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pills2619 wrote: I always grab the leash out of simple respect of the other people.


I've shared this story in the past, but it was a while ago and for sakes of the discussion will shortly share it again.

I was snowshoeing one time when out of nowhere I dog attacked me. He grabbed my pants and tore them up. I had tall boots so those helped in protecting. The owner was no where to be found. After a bit he shows up and apologizes and continued on the trail. I was attacked by the same dog 3 times if I remember correctly that same day. Now a days I just carry a 9mm with me in every trip. What would have happened if it went after my daugher instead of me?

Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby ChicagoMike » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:37 am

zoriloco wrote:If only people followed the rules...... :roll:

TallGrass wrote:
zoriloco wrote:I would also suggest you dont bring him out until you are completely sure the dog acts on command.
Isn't that what a leash is for? :roll:


To you Sir, Thank you very much! We need more people that think this way.

Derek wrote:
pills2619 wrote: I always grab the leash out of simple respect of the other people.


I've shared this story in the past, but it was a while ago and for sakes of the discussion will shortly share it again.

I was snowshoeing one time when out of nowhere I dog attacked me. He grabbed my pants and tore them up. I had tall boots so those helped in protecting. The owner was no where to be found. After a bit he shows up and apologizes and continued on the trail. I was attacked by the same dog 3 times if I remember correctly that same day. Now a days I just carry a 9mm with me in every trip. What would have happened if it went after my daugher instead of me?


Ok tough guy, everyone appreciates that you are a protective father......this thread was supposed to be about when to train puppies to ski, not about shooting dogs.

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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby Derek » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:39 am

ChicagoMike wrote:Back to the original topic. We ended up taking him on a very short hike up at Brainard Lake just to get him outside in the snow and also to work on some obedience. He definitely let us know when he was done and as I mentioned before we didn't want to push to hard.


Got any pics to share of him on the trip? Cute dog. (Assuming thats him in your avatar.)
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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby ChicagoMike » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:49 am

Derek wrote:
ChicagoMike wrote:Back to the original topic. We ended up taking him on a very short hike up at Brainard Lake just to get him outside in the snow and also to work on some obedience. He definitely let us know when he was done and as I mentioned before we didn't want to push to hard.


Got any pics to share of him on the trip? Cute dog. (Assuming thats him in your avatar.)


He is vicious ;) 50lbs 6 months. He is our big baby.
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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby Floyd » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:06 pm

And another thread where a dog owner asks a very honest question and it spirals out of control with the same old stuff... When will people learn that no one will change their point of view based on a bumper sticker or internet debate - especially one that's been beaten to death several times over.

Beautiful dog ChicagoMike. Hopefully Floyd can meet him along the trail one day.
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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby Derek » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:10 pm

Floyd wrote:Beautiful dog ChicagoMike.


Agree! Looks like a snow lover, just like mine. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby ChicagoMike » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:46 pm

Derek wrote:
Floyd wrote:Beautiful dog ChicagoMike.


Agree! Looks like a snow lover, just like mine. Thanks for sharing.


Thanks. I am a proud puppy daddy. Floyd is a good looking dog as well. How old? We love to go down to Chatfield.

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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby zoriloco » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:49 pm

I dont see what all the fuzz is about. The OP was about dogs out in the wilderness. Fact and not coming from a tough guy as i consider myself a very mellow person. There are people out in the mountiains armed. And as I see the point went completely over your head let me make it clear. Dog owners need to realize there are people out and about that consider their safety and their loved ones much more then a dog.

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Re: How young is too young for puppies on trail?

Postby Floyd » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:48 pm

ChicagoMike wrote:
Derek wrote:
Floyd wrote:Beautiful dog ChicagoMike.


Agree! Looks like a snow lover, just like mine. Thanks for sharing.


Thanks. I am a proud puppy daddy. Floyd is a good looking dog as well. How old? We love to go down to Chatfield.


Thanks! Floyd will be 8 in February. We taught him to swim at Chatfield but frequent Cherry Creek. I'd say he's slowing down but he did a 20 mile/6k vert day in October and then turned around with a 13 mile day through knee-deep snow in November (Yes, we found the only snow in the state in the west side of the IPW.)
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