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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by timisimaginary » Thu May 06, 2021 9:27 am

homicide133 wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 6:25 am
timisimaginary wrote:
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i think the OP might want to take a look at this thread
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Trotter » Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 am

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Wed May 05, 2021 6:56 am
Just received an email from a company and they want $500,000 to move/support 4 climbers. They're flippin nuts.
Now you know why Mt Siple is still unclimbed.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by ekalina » Thu May 06, 2021 12:24 pm

Wow, $500K.

I was curious about expenses for other, more popular expedition peaks (unguided). I found this thread:
https://14ers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42582

The more moderate costs of $1500–3000 to climb Denali, Aconcagua, etc. are certainly more palatable. Probably not of any help to the OP, since they sounded pretty set on Siple, but it seems like one could climb 100+ expedition-style peaks for the price of one Siple.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Scott P » Thu May 06, 2021 6:49 pm

Trotter wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 10:54 am
Now you know why Mt Siple is still unclimbed.
Yes. It probably doesn't help that it looks like a boring snow slog:
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I'd imagine that it would only take 3 or 4 days in good weather and wouldn't offer much in the way of mountaineering. That's a long way to go for a 3-4 day (and probably not very interesting) snow slog. Unless they are erupting or highly eroded, shield volcanoes are seldom very interesting, at least scenery wise.

It's main attraction is that it's the highest ultra left in Antarctica that is unclimbed. Supposedly Siple is the also second most prominent unclimbed peak, for those that care about that that sort of thing. Sources that say that it's the highest unclimbed peak in Antarctica are incorrect. So are sources that say that it has "probably been climbed". The only expedtions in the area were to take ice cores, and they didn't climb the peak.

Just the fact that it is an unclimbed ultra and one of the most prominent unclimbed peaks will make the peak attractive to some, so if someone could raise the fund or has the right sized pocketbook, it will probably get climbed sometime in the next few years.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Salient » Fri May 07, 2021 7:18 am

Scott P wrote:
Thu May 06, 2021 6:49 pm
Supposedly Siple is the also second most prominent unclimbed peak, for those that care about that that sort of thing.
I couldn't find much info about the most prominent unclimbed peak but I believe it is Sauyr Zhotasy if I'm not mistaken. I would think that would be a much more enjoyable, cheaper & more technical climb.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Somewhat of a Prick » Fri May 07, 2021 11:57 am

I'm in. Where do I send my 125k?
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Eli Boardman » Fri May 07, 2021 12:24 pm

Cheaper than I expected, seeing as it's only about 3x per person compared to climbing Vinson via a highly established system. AFAIK environmental permitting requires the use of ALE for overland or airborne trips, so DIY won't work, 7mil plane or otherwise.

Now I am in fact curious about the potential for marine access since it's a coastal peak. Who wants to go in on an icebreaker rental? 8)
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Scott P » Sun May 09, 2021 11:48 pm

Eli Boardman wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:24 pm
Now I am in fact curious about the potential for marine access since it's a coastal peak. Who wants to go in on an icebreaker rental? 8)
It appears that there is one cruise company that stops by Siple Island:

https://en.ponant.com/antarctica-the-ross-sea-o160222-9

Since the return trip from the Ross Ice Shelf also goes by Siple Island, it is possible that they might consider dropping you off and picking you up on the way back, assuming you could find a way to release them from all liability. On the way to Ross Ice Shelf, they actually land on the island on a zodiac.

The stop at Siple Island on 2/25/2022 and would be passing Siple Island on the return trip on 3/5/2022. That should be plenty of time to climb the mountain assuming that they would agree to pick you up on the way back.

The cheapest cabin left is 35,330 Euro ($42,946). Not cheap, but it would still be the cheapest way by far to get there. This is the first commercial cruise that I am aware of that actually stops or passes Siple Island.

In all seriousness, if you (homicide133) did want to make the first ascent, someone should contact them. If cruise ships are going to start passing by and landing on Siple Island, it is only a matter of time before the first ascent is nabbed. $125,000 is a much bigger barrier than $43,946 so someone is going to try it sooner or later, assuming the cruise ships allow it. The cruise ship cost is about the same price as a climb of Vinson.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Salient » Mon May 10, 2021 6:05 am

Scott P wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:48 pm
Eli Boardman wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 12:24 pm
Now I am in fact curious about the potential for marine access since it's a coastal peak. Who wants to go in on an icebreaker rental? 8)
It appears that there is one cruise company that stops by Siple Island:

https://en.ponant.com/antarctica-the-ross-sea-o160222-9

Since the return trip from the Ross Ice Shelf also goes by Siple Island, it is possible that they might consider dropping you off and picking you up on the way back, assuming you could find a way to release them from all liability. On the way to Ross Ice Shelf, they actually land on the island on a zodiac.

The stop at Siple Island on 2/25/2022 and would be passing Siple Island on the return trip on 3/5/2022. That should be plenty of time to climb the mountain assuming that they would agree to pick you up on the way back.

The cheapest cabin left is 35,330 Euro ($42,946). Not cheap, but it would still be the cheapest way by far to get there. This is the first commercial cruise that I am aware of that actually stops or passes Siple Island.

In all seriousness, if you (homicide133) did want to make the first ascent, someone should contact them. If cruise ships are going to start passing by and landing on Siple Island, it is only a matter of time before the first ascent is nabbed. $125,000 is a much bigger barrier than $43,946 so someone is going to try it sooner or later, assuming the cruise ships allow it. The cruise ship cost is about the same price as a climb of Vinson.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by bdloftin77 » Mon May 10, 2021 7:19 am

Scott P wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:48 pm

...it is only a matter of time before the first ascent is nabbed.
And looks like that amount of time might be two years, according to this fundraising website. https://everest2022.com/first-to-summit-mt-siple
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by Dave B » Mon May 10, 2021 7:29 am

bdloftin77 wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 7:19 am
Scott P wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:48 pm

...it is only a matter of time before the first ascent is nabbed.
And looks like that amount of time might be two years, according to this fundraising website. https://everest2022.com/first-to-summit-mt-siple
That website tho...

I give "The most accomplished big-mountain climber in Michigan" a slim chance of making it. Perhaps a bit more that rando dude looking for major expedition FA partners on the internet without having even looked into costs first, but still a pretty slim chance. I guess at least Steve has his "gimme money so I can go climbing" infrastructure pretty well developed, I'd be curious to know how much people have actually donated to him tho.

From his keynote speaker page:
With mountains of experience in the law enforcement community as well as stories of climbing some of Colorado's highest peaks along with Kilimanjaro in Tanzania, Steve has some amazing experiences to share that are guaranteed to inspire, motivate and invoke a positive shift in his audiences.
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Re: Mt. Siple Expedition 2022

Post by bdloftin77 » Mon May 10, 2021 7:55 am

Dave B wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 7:29 am
bdloftin77 wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 7:19 am
Scott P wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 11:48 pm

...it is only a matter of time before the first ascent is nabbed.
And looks like that amount of time might be two years, according to this fundraising website. https://everest2022.com/first-to-summit-mt-siple
That website...
That wasn't actually meant to be an ironic post, but looks like I found the OP's fundraiser page... I wish you the best of luck! And looks like a quick google search shows that the only person you're racing against is yourself, though there might be others with Siple aspirations as well. If you do end up going, keep us updated! And be safe. :thumbup:
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