Climate Change
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- painless4u2
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Re: Climate Change
"If all human emissions of heat-trapping gases were to stop today, Earth’s temperature would continue to rise for a few decades as ocean currents bring excess heat stored in the deep ocean back to the surface."
In other words. if the entire world, including China and India, along with the US reverted to the dark ages, nothing will happen for decades. It is extremely unlikely the world will achieve zero emissions for the foreseeable future. If climate change is dependent on human activity, it really doesn't matter.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/c ... al-warming
In other words. if the entire world, including China and India, along with the US reverted to the dark ages, nothing will happen for decades. It is extremely unlikely the world will achieve zero emissions for the foreseeable future. If climate change is dependent on human activity, it really doesn't matter.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/c ... al-warming
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IPAs + Ambien = "14ers" post (Bill M.)
In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps. Proverbs 16:9
- kman
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Re: Climate Change
Just getting in before the thread lock...
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- cottonmountaineering
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- Bale
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Re: Climate Change
Data from glacier cores, tree rings, ocean acidification, ocean temps, retreating glaciers, good old air temps, etc. all suggest AGW, but who knows? In any case, it’s getting warm out there!
The earth, like the sun, like the air, belongs to everyone - and to no one. - Edward Abbey
- Bale
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Re: Climate Change
Kman’s chart actually unintentionally highlights the severity of the problem since what we’re dealing with is the modification of the Earth’s atmosphere in a way that magnifies the power of that big-ass sun.
The earth, like the sun, like the air, belongs to everyone - and to no one. - Edward Abbey
- timewarp01
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Re: Climate Change
Looking at current trends in the context of a larger time scale might help those who doubt humanity's ability to impact their planet's atmosphere: https://xkcd.com/1732/
- Iguru
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Re: Climate Change
400 million years from now, it won't matter a rats a** how badly we f*** up the planet.
And we are f***ing up the planet.
But our kids and grandkids might care.
And we are f***ing up the planet.
But our kids and grandkids might care.
I gotta get me an Avatar.
- montanahiker
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Re: Climate Change
There's more to life than 14ers. There are 13ers.
- myfeetrock
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Re: Climate Change
I'm a big fan of science. Especially volcanos. As for statistics, they say the more I disagree with you, the more agitated you will become.prairiechicken wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:13 pmI don't think you understand statistics, or science in general. Nothing can be 100% without a doubt. Nothing.myfeetrock wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:08 pm 95%.Not 100% without a doubt. To each his own. We don't have to share the same views.
- ClimbandMine
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Re: Climate Change
We need to do something, but ...
Sierra Club doesn't help by baiting oil Co. Golfers while flying around in a plane towing a banner. Burning oil.
TNF doesn't help by their virtue signaling.
Companies and made of people. People with livelihoods and families they work hard to support. Whether its in drilling, pipelines, construction, power generation, etc - almost all of these folks just try to do the right thing every day and go home to their families at night.
So, when they see a virtue signaling environmentalist telling them to do *something* about climate change that essentially means giving up their livelihood AND BEING BLATANT HYPOCRITES about it in the process, what do you think the vast majority of people will do? Agree? Of course not... Turn away and reject the idea.
If we want change, the tactics need to change...
Sales and marketing is all about selling an idea. Sell the idea, don't be dicks. Don't be Sierra Club.
Sierra Club doesn't help by baiting oil Co. Golfers while flying around in a plane towing a banner. Burning oil.
TNF doesn't help by their virtue signaling.
Companies and made of people. People with livelihoods and families they work hard to support. Whether its in drilling, pipelines, construction, power generation, etc - almost all of these folks just try to do the right thing every day and go home to their families at night.
So, when they see a virtue signaling environmentalist telling them to do *something* about climate change that essentially means giving up their livelihood AND BEING BLATANT HYPOCRITES about it in the process, what do you think the vast majority of people will do? Agree? Of course not... Turn away and reject the idea.
If we want change, the tactics need to change...
Sales and marketing is all about selling an idea. Sell the idea, don't be dicks. Don't be Sierra Club.
I don't care that you Tele.
- greenonion
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Re: Climate Change
Can you tell a person's political views by how they respond to threads with polls. I think you can.montanahiker wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:24 pm So Mad Max or three versions of "nothing to see here"?
Can you tell a person's political views by how they write a poll? I think you can.
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Re: Climate Change
The biggest issue that I have with a lot of far left environmentalists is that they go around yelling about how global warming is going to kill us, but their lifestyles probably burn more CO2 than mine does. I try to do my part to live lightly on the planet. I have a problem with big government solutions to almost anything: they don't work.
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