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Iguru wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:42 pm
timisimaginary wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:04 pm
COFitnessJenn wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:44 am Makes me sad, nature/wildlife pays the ultimate price for human greed and ignorance.
humanity will pay the ultimate price eventually: extinction.

after that, nature and wildlife will recover and be better off without us. might take a few hundred or a few thousand or a few million years, but the planet will be fine in the end.
Until the sun goes red giant and the first three planets are swallowed up in the process :-k
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12ersRule wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm My plan is to be cryogenically frozen and then be awakened just as this is happening, so I can watch that! I'll wake up Ted Williams for that one too.
Frozen and stored on Mars then? Or is the plan to go out in a (literal) blaze of glory?
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Iguru wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:42 pmUntil the sun goes red giant and the first three planets are swallowed up in the process :-k
Human kind will either be extinct or have moved on to other planets long before that happens. All plant life (and then other life) will likely be extinct or going to be extinct in another ~600,000,000 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth

It's likely that the earth won't be swallowed up until almost seven billion years after that happens.
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We have never been able to predict earthquakes, but predicting the future of the planet Earth must be much easier and not at all akin to conspiracy theories
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ker0uac wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:30 pm We have never been able to predict earthquakes, but predicting the future of the planet Earth must be much easier and not at all akin to conspiracy theories
False equivalency. There are a ton of things we don't know/understand. That in no way diminishes the confidence in the processes we do understand.

The climate is observable and we understand it's functioning from first principles (i.e. physical laws and math). Earthquakes are underpinned by large-scale processes that are incredibly challenging to measure with our current technology, so we don't understand it well enough to make predictions.

Climate models from 2004 predicted the following 16 years of global temperatures with remarkable accuracy:
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Scott P wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:57 pm
Iguru wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:42 pmUntil the sun goes red giant and the first three planets are swallowed up in the process :-k
Human kind will either be extinct or have moved on to other planets long before that happens. All plant life (and then other life) will likely be extinct or going to be extinct in another ~600,000 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth

It's likely that the earth won't be swallowed up until almost seven billion years after that happens.
So, we should be more concerned about the immediate future than the long term future. Whoda thunk :!:
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Dave B wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:12 pm
ker0uac wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:30 pm We have never been able to predict earthquakes, but predicting the future of the planet Earth must be much easier and not at all akin to conspiracy theories
False equivalency. There are a ton of things we don't know/understand. That in no way diminishes the confidence in the processes we do understand.

The climate is observable and we understand it's functioning from first principles (i.e. physical laws and math). Earthquakes are underpinned by large-scale processes that are incredibly challenging to measure with our current technology, so we don't understand it well enough to make predictions.

Climate models from 2004 predicted the following 16 years of global temperatures with remarkable accuracy:
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Scott P wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:57 pm
Iguru wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:42 pmUntil the sun goes red giant and the first three planets are swallowed up in the process :-k
Human kind will either be extinct or have moved on to other planets long before that happens. All plant life (and then other life) will likely be extinct or going to be extinct in another ~600,000 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth

It's likely that the earth won't be swallowed up until almost seven billion years after that happens.
That is a fun article Scott. In agreement, more or less with this:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... ion-years/
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Wentzl wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:57 pm
That is a fun article Scott, but you left some zeros off you summary. Not 600,000 years, but 600,000,000. In agreement, more or less with this:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... ion-years/
Indeed. Definitely a typo on my part.
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SkaredShtles wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:23 pm Don't engage the dum dums.
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Jon Frohlich wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:37 am I'm super sensitive to wildfire smoke and I'm already having headaches, sneezing, and asthma attacks even in Denver. Not looking forward to another few months of this at all.
me too...plus mold, pollution, etc. I've already visited an ENT and he's got me jacked on prednisone.

the first time visited CB, I was immediately addicted to that alpine air. clean air, clean creeks and rivers, clean town. I was in nirvana. I'm grateful that I had 5 summers of that kind of beauty, it will never be forgotten.

so depressing that I or the next generation may never experience that again.
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