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stephakett wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:04 pm
just curious- what is the precedent for using/not using the train for Purg when attempting the self-supported FKT?
Peter Jones suggested I take the train in and hike out to Purg. Not sure what he actually did back in 1995. Despite his advice, I opted for taking the train out to Silverton to my waiting vehicle.
Although the OP went to great lengths to define his self-imposed rules, the bar seems to be well defined by FKT.com already. When measuring yourself against others, self-imposed rules are superseded in view of established rules and guidelines, IMO.
Traveling light is the only way to fly.
IG: @colorado_invasive
Strava: Brent Herring
glenmiz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:14 am
Kind of a strange start...
Looks like 11:51pm 7/4
Eolus 3:56am 7/5
N Eolus between 4:26am and 4:36am 7/5
Sunlight 6:19am 7/5
Windom 7:12am 7/5
If there is someone with him, please suggest he tag each summit when he is there with the tracker. His track doesn't appear to cross N Eolus which, I suspect is due to the frequency of pings.
When Andrew and I talked to him we told him he should do this, so maybe it was just a memory mistake!
“Be not afraid of going slowly, be afraid only of standing still.”
glenmiz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:14 am
Kind of a strange start...
Looks like 11:51pm 7/4
Eolus 3:56am 7/5
N Eolus between 4:26am and 4:36am 7/5
Sunlight 6:19am 7/5
Windom 7:12am 7/5
If there is someone with him, please suggest he tag each summit when he is there with the tracker. His track doesn't appear to cross N Eolus which, I suspect is due to the frequency of pings.
When Andrew and I talked to him we told him he should do this, so maybe it was just a memory mistake!
Piggybacking off Andrea... as you know AS, there is so much to think about when making an attempt of this magnitude that details get missed, particularly early on before a methodology gets established.
Hmm, not sure he got 3000ft for Sneffels? Am I looking at the GPS track wrong?
Looks like he went from the outhouse parking lot for Sneffels. If so he would’ve only gained around 2900ft up to the summit. One of the hardest parts of this FKT is adhering to that arbitrary and at times unwieldy rule.
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Traveling light is the only way to fly.
IG: @colorado_invasive
Strava: Brent Herring
Jorts wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:19 pm
Hmm, not sure he got 3000ft for Sneffels? Am I looking at the GPS track wrong?
Looks like he went from the outhouse parking lot for Sneffels. If so he would’ve only gained around 2900ft up to the summit. One of the hardest parts of this FKT is adhering to that arbitrary and at times unwieldy rule.
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Or his device is feeding him the same data you just posted in a screenshot… 14,155’- 11,052’ = 3,103’. Yes we all know this site and other sources list the bathrooms as higher in elevation. We all know those two spots are not hundreds of feet in elevation difference, so could be a device error in the actual location (coordinates) of the “pin” and correct altitude?
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nsaladin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:33 pm
Or his device is feeding him the same data you just posted in a screenshot… 14,155’- 11,052’ = 3,103’. Yes we all know this sight and other sources list the bathrooms as higher…
You’re probably right. Does he have a gps watch or Strava? The inreach data seems kind of nebulous.
Traveling light is the only way to fly.
IG: @colorado_invasive
Strava: Brent Herring
Looks to me like he parked at the outhouse (1:52, 2:02 track points), then walked down the road to start (2:56 point). He then finished below the outhouse (6:04 point) and walked back up the road to the outhouse (6:15, 6:25 points).
Dunno if those 2:56 and 6:04 points were exactly the start/end points, though. Even those seem a touch high, so perhaps he went a bit further down the road. On the USGS map, that 90 degree bend in the road just below those points is right at the 11,200' contour.
Having tried this kind of stupidity before I can say the error on where the InReach pings, what a GPS watch says and what a phone says are probably all going to be slightly different. If anyone on here thinks the 50-100 horizontal feet are going to make or break his record attempt or that the OP is being disingenuous, go out there and spectate, his inreach is there and you can follow his every move in person and criticize what's actually happening rather than be hyper critical about what none of us really know based on incompetent data.
So much arm chair quarterbacking on this site. Let's just appreciate the effort and cheer him on. He's put his intentions publicly out there and is letting us all see what he's doing in real time as close as is possible.
thebeave7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:08 pm
So much arm chair quarterbacking on this site. Let's just appreciate the effort and cheer him on. He's put his intentions publicly out there and is letting us all see what he's doing in real time as close as is possible.
I think the issue with sneffels was that he needed to park his van somewhere and maybe he didn’t feel comfortable leaving his car on the side of the road. It’s fairly narrow in that spot and the road can be busy during the day. So as Prater mentioned he started by parking above the start, then hiked down from where he parked to start and finish sneffels. What a total pain but i appreciate the extra work he has to go through for a self supported attempt.
I sent him a text to ask him to mark his summits with preset messages (as Glen requested) and also his start and stops, and he said he thought he was. So it might be a configuration issue with presets showing up on mapshare. I’ll try to help him get that debugged if he gets time for it.
thebeave7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:08 pm
So much arm chair quarterbacking on this site. Let's just appreciate the effort and cheer him on. He's put his intentions publicly out there and is letting us all see what he's doing in real time as close as is possible.
Guarantee I appreciate the effort more than most people on this site. Once the “Im going for a record…” door is opened so is the scrutiny.
Traveling light is the only way to fly.
IG: @colorado_invasive
Strava: Brent Herring
thebeave7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:08 pm
So much arm chair quarterbacking on this site. Let's just appreciate the effort and cheer him on. He's put his intentions publicly out there and is letting us all see what he's doing in real time as close as is possible.
+1 to cheering him on. Good luck!
This. Definitely bring the positivity as doing s**t like this is just hard.
There will be inreach anomalies even if he does everything right.
