The 13ers FKT Project

[Mtnman200]

I would throw a bomb through the bedroom window into this inane thread if I could, starting right from the first post.

Please don't stop with this thread. At least 80% of threads need to be blown up!

I’m with Andrew on this. Bombs away, Bill!

[timisimaginary]

Please don't stop with this thread. At least 80% of threads need to be blown up!

I’m with Andrew on this. Bombs away, Bill!

LIBERATE 14ERS.COM!

[jkirk]

Oh hell, I even wrote this, and stand by it:

If you're hiking a lot in winter, you can't really have a job and probably don't even want to have a house.

I wonder what this means for the top two all-time in winter ascents by over 1200 ascents who have had no gaps in full-time employment in that period and just purchased their third home?: https://listsofjohn.com/winter

[TaylorHolt]

Oh hell, I even wrote this, and stand by it:

If you're hiking a lot in winter, you can't really have a job and probably don't even want to have a house.

I wonder what this means for the top two all-time in winter ascents by over 1200 ascents who have had no gaps in full-time employment in that period and just purchased their third home?: https://listsofjohn.com/winter

Nice humble brag

While you're here, how long did it take you to finish the 13ers because, let's be honest, that's probably the FKT?

[Monster5]

Sorting that thing by 13K+ might be more relevant to Matt's point in the context of this thread, John!

Edit: Can't figure out how to do all and sort by unique 13ers, but a quick perusing has Ken Nolan at 368 (mostly grid work and cents), SarahT at 299, Jean 137, Kevin Baker at 106, Homie at 100 (mostly grid), Dwight 96, Boggy at 84 (possibly outdated), and Furthermore at 80. Eagle eye might have a high count too.
I'd guess Sarah takes the cake for unique 13ers, followed by whatever Boggy's actual count is.

I wonder what this means for the top two all-time in winter ascents by over 1200 ascents who have had no gaps in full-time employment in that period and just purchased their third home?: https://listsofjohn.com/winter

[jkirk]

Nice humble brag

While you're here, how long did it take you to finish the 13ers because, let's be honest, that's probably the FKT?

I had a hard time not taking issue with the comment being posted more than once with added emphasis of the "stand by it" comment. Not even close on the 13er FKT - 11 years. I did a lot of 13ers early on before I became more focused and even thought it was a possibility. Alyson might have the 12ers FKT. Haven't looked too closely big lists in terms of time to finish.

[jkirk]

Sorting that thing by 13K+ might be more relevant to Matt's point in the context of this thread, John!

Edit: Can't figure out how to do all and sort by unique 13ers, but a quick perusing has Ken Nolan at 368 (mostly grid work and cents), SarahT at 299, Jean 137, Kevin Baker at 106, Homie at 100 (mostly grid), Dwight 96, Boggy at 84 (possibly outdated), and Furthermore at 80. Eagle eye might have a high count too.
I'd guess Sarah takes the cake for unique 13ers, followed by whatever Boggy's actual count is.

Context is important, but I'm also not seeing prevalence of homelessness & joblessness in that list of names.

[Monster5]

Good point. While not to the extent of "homeless" and "jobless," I'd say there's a correlation between frequent alpine peak hiking and flexible/ unconventional schedules and/or periods of unemployment.

Funny enough, that last sentence might have a negative connotation in traditional American culture, but most of us consider it to jibe with modern work-life balance.

[pvnisher]

If you don't have a residence due to personal choice then you're not homeless.
The intent determines the status.

[TravelingMatt]

Oh hell, I even wrote this, and stand by it:

If you're hiking a lot in winter, you can't really have a job and probably don't even want to have a house.

I wonder what this means for the top two all-time in winter ascents by over 1200 ascents who have had no gaps in full-time employment in that period and just purchased their third home?: https://listsofjohn.com/winter

I meant that in the context of explicitly going for an all-584 FKT. Which I think was pretty clear. And which I continue to stand by.

By "job" I was thinking of W-2; it's certainly easier if you're 1099.

Oh and in my response to "angry" I was originally going to refer to her as the John Kirk of homelessness. Although at this point I have no idea whether that flatters or (further) offends you.

[jkirk]

By "job" I was thinking of W-2; it's certainly easier if you're 1099.

Who's being referenced when you say 1099?
As for an FKT of the 584 it would better serve the participant to not do any of the 584 between January and May. The slower accumulation of those in winter conditions flattens out the density and extends the completion timeframe. This assumes one could keep a steady pace of 73 a month. Perhaps doable if you don't have other obligations.

[Boggy B]

Good discussion. I've wondered how quickly it could be done if going for speed.

For what it's worth, working a full-time job, my time for all ranked 13k+ was 10 years and 8 days. I did manage all but 4 of the 786 ranked+soft+named 13k+ in the same period and finished the ranked list somewhat by accident. Regardless, not terribly fast.

I agree three summers sounds about right, assuming you start the game with a load of all-season experience and a high tolerance for thunderstorms. Your San Juan strategy will be the deciding factor, and completing them all in one year seems like a recipe for injury. Instead, I'd carve the remoter SJ into 3rds and complete my goal there each year if I wanted to have a chance.
Maybe a pattern like this:

July thru early November: San Juan, Gore
November thru early June: Sawatch, Tenmile, Mosquito, Front, Sangre
June thru early July: Elk

Someone I know was able to complete all of the private South Sangre (Puratoire to Maxwell) in a very leisurely 4-day backpack in early summer. Purgatoire to Trinchera could be done easily in a single 3- or 4-day trip.

The crux of this endeavor will be not injuring yourself due to the miles and vert.