Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by NathanRL » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:37 pm

Nutras Creek on San Luis is really close. I walked down some cattle paths alongside the creek to make sure.
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by pvnisher » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:42 am

If you don't have the full 3k then I'll allow you to reclimb the last 1000 twice as penance and count it.

Also, if you don't make the summit you can just rehike the lower 1k three times and count it.
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by timisimaginary » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:03 am

JChitwood wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:21 pm
Good grief look at all the 14ers I get to reclimb.
FTFY
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by illusion7il » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:44 am

I totally forgot I posted this! Eli did a great job of outlining all the peaks/trailheads that don't follow this rule. It's a personal preference to follow this or not. One thing that is guaranteed is there is no prize either way.

When do we get to have another debate on what qualifies as a True Winter Summit or better yet, what counts as a True SOLO ascent? Seems like the form due for one of these soon...let me know.

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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by RobLowe » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:29 am

Preston, don’t forget the question of did you summit if you only went up to x spot on a mountain without actually going to the top of said mountain. That’s my favorite “debate.”
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by supranihilest » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:57 pm

JChitwood wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:21 pm
Good grief look at all [random small number] of the 13ers I should officially count.
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by greenonion » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:20 pm

Will_E wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:14 pm
shelly+ wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:28 pm
greenonion wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:09 pm
If it ain’t part of a FKT then don’t worry about it. IMO
If I follow the rule, then I end up with a longer day, which means more distance and more time spent in the mountains... which is the only thing I live for. lol I bet you knew I'd say that. :)
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by nyker » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:14 pm

I felt that when I had to walk up Lake Como road three separate times for each of the 14ers there, I should have some allowance built up in elevation credit to use on a peak like Lincoln! :lol:
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by nunns » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 am

nyker wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:14 pm
I felt that when I had to walk up Lake Como road three separate times for each of the 14ers there, I should have some allowance built up in elevation credit to use on a peak like Lincoln! :lol:
You certainly have my respect. When I was planning a summer 2020 trip to the Blanca group, I read about hiking up the Lake Como road and my thought was: "I've been up a lot of pretty miserable roads. How bad could it be?" Well I sure found out, and it was a lot worse coming down than going up. Plus we came up about 800 feet short on Little Bear due to fog and rain, so now I have to do it again!!!

Yeah, you definitely get extra credit for that in my book. Not climbing extra credit necessarily, but more like "suffering credit".


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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by highpilgrim » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:27 am

nunns wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 am
nyker wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:14 pm
I felt that when I had to walk up Lake Como road three separate times for each of the 14ers there, I should have some allowance built up in elevation credit to use on a peak like Lincoln! :lol:
You certainly have my respect. When I was planning a summer 2020 trip to the Blanca group, I read about hiking up the Lake Como road and my thought was: "I've been up a lot of pretty miserable roads. How bad could it be?" Well I sure found out, and it was a lot worse coming down than going up. Plus we came up about 800 feet short on Little Bear due to fog and rain, so now I have to do it again!!!

Yeah, you definitely get extra credit for that in my book. Not climbing extra credit necessarily, but more like "suffering credit".


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I guess I'm in the minority, but I liked the area above Lake Como enough as a camp that the hike just didn't offend me. Except for once when we got thunderbombed late afternoon on the way down to parking at 9600. If I had to hike in from lower down, my opinion would change, but anyone with a modicum of 4wd skillz can get to that place I've parked 5 times or so now.

I think I'll even go back because we climbed Ellingwood while it was completely socked in with clouds and I couldn't see more that 100 feet at any point in the climb. It just seems like I gotta go back and actually see the view.
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by RETEP 1 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:46 pm

If there’s a camp for folks that live for single track...that’s me! I don’t care how long or steep or what elevation I start at. There’s just something about being in the mountains on a road that I don’t enjoy as much, unless I’m wheeling of course.
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Re: Fully Realizing the 3000ft Rule

Post by nyker » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:55 pm

highpilgrim wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:27 am
nunns wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:12 am
nyker wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:14 pm
I felt that when I had to walk up Lake Como road three separate times for each of the 14ers there, I should have some allowance built up in elevation credit to use on a peak like Lincoln! :lol:
You certainly have my respect. When I was planning a summer 2020 trip to the Blanca group, I read about hiking up the Lake Como road and my thought was: "I've been up a lot of pretty miserable roads. How bad could it be?" Well I sure found out, and it was a lot worse coming down than going up. Plus we came up about 800 feet short on Little Bear due to fog and rain, so now I have to do it again!!!

Yeah, you definitely get extra credit for that in my book. Not climbing extra credit necessarily, but more like "suffering credit".


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I guess I'm in the minority, but I liked the area above Lake Como enough as a camp that the hike just didn't offend me. Except for once when we got thunderbombed late afternoon on the way down to parking at 9600. If I had to hike in from lower down, my opinion would change, but anyone with a modicum of 4wd skillz can get to that place I've parked 5 times or so now.

I think I'll even go back because we climbed Ellingwood while it was completely socked in with clouds and I couldn't see more that 100 feet at any point in the climb. It just seems like I gotta go back and actually see the view.
Ellingwood makes a nice climb and the view of Blanca and LB from there is pretty cool. I love the colors of the lakes up there especially in Spring when ice still lingers
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