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Rollie Free wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:11 am
Regarding the chart above why would a 'fully vaccinated' person find wearing a mask situational? Fully vaccinated sounds like the wrong term to use then.
I read the other day that covid exposure from walking by someone, such as on a trail, is virtually impossible. I liken it to the people driving alone or walking their dog by themselves as people who have a poor understanding of all this.
The only reason the CDC isn't telling fully vaccinated people to return to life as normal is because they are committed to engage in social engineering. They have overstepped their authority as experts of disease control and are now openly lying to the people because they don't trust anyone to think for themselves. Case in point, Fauci lying about masks last march for the purposes of rationing PPE for first responders.
It turns out, when you lie to people for ulterior motives, they stop believing anything you have to say, because who knows what you are going to lie about next. When you don't trust people with the truth, you lose their trust in you.
- A mountain is not a checkbox to be ticked
- Alpinism and mountaineering are not restricted to 14,000 foot mountains
- Judgment and experience are the two most important pieces of gear you own
- Being honest to yourself and others about your abilities is a characteristic of experienced climbers
- Courage cannot be bought at REI or carried with you in your rucksack
crossfitter wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 amThe only reason the CDC isn't telling fully vaccinated people to return to life as normal is because they are committed to engage in social engineering.
I'm shocked you believe this. Wow
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crossfitter wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 amThe only reason the CDC isn't telling fully vaccinated people to return to life as normal is because they are committed to engage in social engineering.
People generally can't think for themselves, and the more a government gets their people to be dependent on them, the more a country decays into the failed experiments of history's past. Most people have no deep understanding of this, so this concept doesn't influence their thoughts and actions to push back against government overreach. The more we are conditioned to give complete faith and authority in our Federal Government, the more we lose. This is inclusive of states' rights too.
It's more hilarious to me that despite the numerous and nearly infinite historical examples, people have complete faith in the Federal government to manage our lives.
"Educated", lol.
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XterraRob wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:24 am
People generally can't think for themselves, and the more a government gets their people to be dependent on them, the more a country decays into the failed experiments of history's past. Most people have no deep understanding of this, so this concept doesn't influence their thoughts and actions to push back against government overreach. The more we are conditioned to give complete faith and authority in our Federal Government, the more we lose. This is inclusive of states' rights too.
It's more hilarious to me that despite the numerous and nearly infinite historical examples, people have complete faith in the Federal government to manage our lives.
"Educated", lol.
Then there are people who exist somewhere between the two bonkers extremes you present. It is possible to have confidence in the government in some cases but not others. Thinking the government seized on an opportunity to social engineer via masks and social distancing during a literal pandemic is fanatical and insane.
crossfitter wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 amThe only reason the CDC isn't telling fully vaccinated people to return to life as normal is because they are committed to engage in social engineering.
XterraRob wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:24 am
People generally can't think for themselves, and the more a government gets their people to be dependent on them, the more a country decays into the failed experiments of history's past. Most people have no deep understanding of this, so this concept doesn't influence their thoughts and actions to push back against government overreach. The more we are conditioned to give complete faith and authority in our Federal Government, the more we lose. This is inclusive of states' rights too.
It's more hilarious to me that despite the numerous and nearly infinite historical examples, people have complete faith in the Federal government to manage our lives.
"Educated", lol.
Then there are people who exist somewhere between the two bonkers extremes you present. It is possible to have confidence in the government in some cases but not others. Thinking the government seized on an opportunity to social engineer via masks and social distancing during a literal pandemic is fanatical and insane.
"submissiveness" lol
It's pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that the only reason the CDC isn't telling vaccinated people that they are good to go is because if they do they lose all control over people that aren't vaccinated. And I have no doubt that half the country loves this top-down control for the sake of "the greater good", but you're lying to yourself and everyone around you if you don't believe that's exactly what's happenning.
- A mountain is not a checkbox to be ticked
- Alpinism and mountaineering are not restricted to 14,000 foot mountains
- Judgment and experience are the two most important pieces of gear you own
- Being honest to yourself and others about your abilities is a characteristic of experienced climbers
- Courage cannot be bought at REI or carried with you in your rucksack
crossfitter wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 am
The only reason the CDC isn't telling fully vaccinated people to return to life as normal is because they are committed to engage in social engineering.
This is absurd.
crossfitter wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 am
They have overstepped their authority as experts of disease control and are now openly lying to the people because they don't trust anyone to think for themselves. Case in point, Fauci lying about masks last march for the purposes of rationing PPE for first responders.
There's some truth to this. I think there various factors at play that explain the liberal circus around covid. Hard to dissect in one sentence. But one factor that often gets overlooked is corporate lobbying. There were major corporations that profited tremendously from the pandemic, Amazon and Walmart just to name two. They are in no hurry to end the fearmongering or lift restrictions since keeping people at home leads to higher revenues. Another corporation profiting tremendously is Pfizer. We could probably live with Covid as an inconvenience like the Flu if we focused on just vaccinating those at risk. In fact, we most likely will regardless. But Pfizer definitely prefers that all Americans get the vaccine, regardless of age and health status. Isn't it curious that the media and government are not focusing on therapeutics for covid? Again, since only a small portion of the pop displays symptoms and an even smaller portion develops a severe case, the profit isn't there as much as it is for vaccines forced upon the entire pop. But to get the entire pop to get the vaccine, the fearmongering must go on:
Spot the only sheep
Spot the hypocrisy
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crossfitter wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:41 am
The only reason the CDC isn't telling fully vaccinated people to return to life as normal is because they are committed to engage in social engineering.
This is absurd.
I think people are getting way too caught up in the wording "social engineering" and think that I am implying the installation of some new world order. Perhaps it is my fault for using such loaded words.
What I am intending to convey is that the CDC is manipulating public perception and behavior by being intentionally dishonest and excessively risk-averse. They are playing games by deceiving people into being extra cautious to achieve their end goal, rather than giving us the best and most accurate information and allowing individuals to make their own risk assessments.
- A mountain is not a checkbox to be ticked
- Alpinism and mountaineering are not restricted to 14,000 foot mountains
- Judgment and experience are the two most important pieces of gear you own
- Being honest to yourself and others about your abilities is a characteristic of experienced climbers
- Courage cannot be bought at REI or carried with you in your rucksack
ker0uac wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:48 amIsn't it curious that the media and government are not focusing on therapeutics for covid?
Isn't it curious that the media and government are not focused on therapeutics for smallpox, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, HPV, etc.?
Wait, not it's not, because achieving herd immunity through vaccination is better than endlessly treating outbreaks with therapeutics.
78% of people hospitalized for covid were overweight. How many lives could have been saved if we spent the last year telling people to get off the fat asses and run, instead of shuttering them inside and giving them free donuts? But instead, Americans listened to dear leader and 42% gained an average of 29 pounds.
- A mountain is not a checkbox to be ticked
- Alpinism and mountaineering are not restricted to 14,000 foot mountains
- Judgment and experience are the two most important pieces of gear you own
- Being honest to yourself and others about your abilities is a characteristic of experienced climbers
- Courage cannot be bought at REI or carried with you in your rucksack
ker0uac wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:48 amIsn't it curious that the media and government are not focusing on therapeutics for covid?
Isn't it curious that the media and government are not focused on therapeutics for smallpox, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, HPV, etc.?
Wait, not it's not, because achieving herd immunity through vaccination is better than endlessly treating outbreaks with therapeutics.
78% of people hospitalized for covid were overweight. How many lives could have been saved if we spent the last year telling people to get off the fat asses and run, instead of shuttering them inside and giving them free donuts? But instead, Americans listened to dear leader and 42% gained an average of 29 pounds.
