Successful Rescue on Quandary

[Alpine Guy]

Sounds like a tragedy was narrowly averted on Quandary yesterday. They were very fortunate to have cell phone coverage or the outcome might have been much different.

https://kdvr.com/2018/08/04/texas-coupl ... ur-mission

[CHWitte]

"hikers were “very fortunate” given their lack of preparedness"

I'm very thankful they are alright.

I took this picture last month (July 2018). The signage is clear and you really can't miss this sign as it is right on the trail leading out of the parking area to the north of the dam.



"The West Ridge is a technical route"

[justiner]

This is the classic: unprepared for West Ridge, weather moved in, got lost, got cliffed out, scenario.

[seano]

That sign should not exist. What’s next, fencing along official trails with regularly-spaced signs saying “POSTED: injury or death may occur beyond this point”? I don’t believe that SAR should charge, but maybe they could learn from Comcast and get a 7-level automated menu system, terrible hold music, and “non-customer retention specialists” to discourage people from summoning choppers.

[onebyone]

That sign should not exist. What’s next, fencing along official trails with regularly-spaced signs saying “POSTED: injury or death may occur beyond this point”? I don’t believe that SAR should charge, but maybe they could learn from Comcast and get a 7-level automated menu system, terrible hold music, and “non-customer retention specialists” to discourage people from summoning choppers.

You're making quite a jump there. From a single sign to whatever you're saying.

[CHWitte]

That sign should not exist. What’s next, fencing along official trails with regularly-spaced signs saying “POSTED: injury or death may occur beyond this point”? I don’t believe that SAR should charge, but maybe they could learn from Comcast and get a 7-level automated menu system, terrible hold music, and “non-customer retention specialists” to discourage people from summoning choppers.

Unfortunately we can’t calculate how many SAR events were prevented by the sign in turning inexperienced folks around.

1000s of signs exist at trailheads.

Jumping to “fencing” on trails is a little far fetched.

[seano]

From a single sign to whatever you're saying.

“Whatever I’m saying” is that the Forest Service should not waste its meager budget on signs that not only say obvious things (“you can fall and get hurt wandering around the mountains”), but that those signs create a false expectation that following an approved trail is always safe. Are you still confused?

[BenjaminTaylor]

From a single sign to whatever you're saying.

“Whatever I’m saying” is that the Forest Service should not waste its meager budget on signs that not only say obvious things (“you can fall and get hurt wandering around the mountains”), but that those signs create a false expectation that following an approved trail is always safe. Are you still confused?

Just in case you're interested in the facts:
https://www.summitdaily.com/news/eagle- ... -quandary/

[oldschool]

From a single sign to whatever you're saying.

“Whatever I’m saying” is that the Forest Service should not waste its meager budget on signs that not only say obvious things (“you can fall and get hurt wandering around the mountains”), but that those signs create a false expectation that following an approved trail is always safe. Are you still confused?

Nope, not confused. No sweat off you if sign appears.

Also totally disagree with you..oh well.

[kwhit24]

From a single sign to whatever you're saying.

“Whatever I’m saying” is that the Forest Service should not waste its meager budget on signs that not only say obvious things (“you can fall and get hurt wandering around the mountains”), but that those signs create a false expectation that following an approved trail is always safe. Are you still confused?

Just curious, but what would you say are appropriate ways for the FS to spend their budget?

[oldschool]

That sign should not exist. What’s next, fencing along official trails with regularly-spaced signs saying “POSTED: injury or death may occur beyond this point”? I don’t believe that SAR should charge, but maybe they could learn from Comcast and get a 7-level automated menu system, terrible hold music, and “non-customer retention specialists” to discourage people from summoning choppers.

So following your logic...

If municipalities are struggling with budget constraints they shouldn't spend money on stop lights and stop signs and speed limit signs and other safety oriented expenditures?

Do I have it correct?

[John Landers]

"hikers were “very fortunate” given their lack of preparedness"

I'm very thankful they are alright.

I took this picture last month (July 2018). The signage is clear and you really can't miss this sign as it is right on the trail leading out of the parking area to the north of the dam.



"The West Ridge is a technical route"

Geez, and according to some a sign would solve all of the problems on Capital.