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Dave B wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:53 am Wait, this was a CMC led climb? Choosing to practice running belays at 9a around 13k on an east facing cooler after a weak freeze?

Stratosfearsome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:40 am

Bean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:35 am

CMC

Well that explains the unreasonably slow pace and complete failure in planning regarding timing and conditions.

Hey man, that seems pretty unfair- CMC does tons of good work.

Stratosfearsome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:40 am

Bean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:35 am

CMC

Well that explains the unreasonably slow pace and complete failure in planning regarding timing and conditions.

Hey man, that seems pretty unfair- CMC does tons of good work.

Bean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:27 am

Stratosfearsome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:40 am

Bean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:35 am
Well that explains the unreasonably slow pace and complete failure in planning regarding timing and conditions.

Hey man, that seems pretty unfair- CMC does tons of good work.

Hey remember that time a CMC run level 1 avalanche class at Berthoud Pass ended up with multiple students caught in an avalanche due to poor route selection?

Ruggeri1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:44 am New here. Just asking if this accident was a climbing team or just hiking up to 14er ? Will grays/torreys be subject to falling rocks on the way up the trail? Is the trail up pretty clear?

SkaredShtles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:42 am

Bean wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:27 am

Stratosfearsome wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:40 am

Hey man, that seems pretty unfair- CMC does tons of good work.

Hey remember that time a CMC run level 1 avalanche class at Berthoud Pass ended up with multiple students caught in an avalanche due to poor route selection?

I don't recall that incident. but I do recall an incident down on Red Mountain that was a similar scenario. I believe one of the students died in the San Juan incident. I don't believe that was CMC, though...

Carl_Healy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:56 am
If the San Juan incident is the same one my AIARE I instructor told us about, the avalanche actually occurred on an AIARE II class...

uwe wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:10 pm Hi Bean,

Dissing CMC like you know something. Dude, Before you run your mouth off, know what you are speaking about.

I was in the 2014 CMC AIARE 1 class and was in the avalanche we caused by making very poor decisions. One other person was buried. We both escaped injury and were self rescued precisely because the other folks who were in the AIARE 1 class had learned how to seek out the safe spot and then successfully perform a companion rescue. An accident was had, we learned from it, and none since. So get off your high horse.

The Colorado Mountain Club has been around since 1912, and has been engaged in promoting Recreation, Conservation and Education. And you have been around, how long? We have hundreds of volunteers who work their ass off to provide services, trips, classes and such. There are many fine talented people who are totally undeserving of your diss. And exactly what have you done volunteering like hundreds of hours promoting wilderness education, recreation and conservation?? I am totally steaming over your callousness and crassness. Grow up. Your are not clever with your insult. You are simply showing off your ignorance! In fact, I invite you to join and see for yourself. Until then, you owe the club and its members an apology.

As to the Red Mountain accident, that was in an AIARE II class.

Frankly, it is tripe trash talk like yours that makes some of the commentary in the Forum a social media s*** show. Sure wasn't anything like that in 2006.