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Has anyone else ever heard that description of camping? I hadn't until this year, and then heard at at least 3 times in the last few months. I see that places like KOA describe "camping cabins." Perhaps I'm getting older and more friends have kids and want to stay in cabins, or perhaps something is changing in our culture where we want to sell the 'camping' experience without inconvenience?
WishIWasInTheMts wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:20 pm
I’m guessing the people who say that staying in a cabin is the same as camping also believe they can count a summit if the made it “close enough”.
Haha, come to think of it, one of the people that made me think of this question had also "hiked Bierstadt" a few years ago. Did you make it to the top, what did you think? "No, but we were really close."
madbuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am
<snip> something is changing in our culture where we want to sell the 'camping' experience without inconvenience?
It's not new - RV/pop-up folks have been trying to pull this $hit for decades. Probably was just a matter of time before people started trying to pull it off for cabins. Next it will be "camping" when you stay in a condo at a ski resort. NTTAWWT.
Unless its a remote hut or yurt, a cabin is a hotel. Even a remote hut/yurt is not camping.
When I lived in Chicago we tried to go camp in Sleeping Bear Dunes but the walk in sites were first come first served and it was full before we got there. Had to tent camp in an RV campground as it was the only thing available. Sleeping next to an RV with its generator buzzing and hearing laugh tracks on the TV they were watching, RV'ing isn't camping either.
I don't even consider sleeping in my car to be camping. Partly to justify sleeping in my car in areas with "no camping" signs.
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madbuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am
Haha, come to think of it, one of the people that made me think of this question had also "hiked Bierstadt" a few years ago. Did you make it to the top, what did you think? "No, but we were really close."
My ex-best friend claimed he hiked Lincoln on the grounds that he got really close, that he’d been with me in spirit when I summited (we’d gone up Dem and Cam together, then he got wigged out by one of the narrow points on the way up Lincoln), and that his dog had been with me in body when I’d summited despite his (apparently weak) efforts to keep her next to him while I went up.
He had an account on here. Lincoln’s still listed as one of his 11 summits.
As far as the poll goes, I want to know who the lone Yes-voting contrarian is and what rationale they have. I’m all for lumping car camping in with regular camping, as you’re going to wake up shivering with a stiff neck and muscle cramps regardless of whether you take the extra step of removing the tent from the trunk and setting it up or not, but as soon as you have a bedframe and a real mattress, no way!
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madbuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am
<snip> something is changing in our culture where we want to sell the 'camping' experience without inconvenience?
It's not new - RV/pop-up folks have been trying to pull this $hit for decades. Probably was just a matter of time before people started trying to pull it off for cabins. Next it will be "camping" when you stay in a condo at a ski resort. NTTAWWT.
Throwing a yellow flag on that one. How do you square calling it "this $hit" in one sentence with "NTTAWWT" two sentences later? Seems you staked out a criticism then you backed off. NTTAWWT. lol. https://tinyurl.com/4poyc6x
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madbuck wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am
<snip> something is changing in our culture where we want to sell the 'camping' experience without inconvenience?
It's not new - RV/pop-up folks have been trying to pull this $hit for decades. Probably was just a matter of time before people started trying to pull it off for cabins. Next it will be "camping" when you stay in a condo at a ski resort. NTTAWWT.
Throwing a yellow flag on that one. How do you square calling it "this $hit" in one sentence with "NTTAWWT" two sentences later? Seems you staked out a criticism then you backed off. NTTAWWT. lol. https://tinyurl.com/4poyc6x
If you have a big tent with a huge queen sized inflatable mattress, I think it's still camping. I think tepees and tents are definitely camping. Probably igloos and snow caves too.
Hell no. I like to use made-up words, so I refer to staying in a cabin as "cabin-ing" (or just saying that I'm getting lodging).
Personally, when I refer to "camping", I mean sleeping in a tent (or less), probably because that's how the term was used in my family when I was a kid. Accordingly, sleeping in a luxury RV (or even a pop-up) isn't "camping" either.
However, when I've referred to "car camping", what I meant to say is that it's a drive-up campsite (as opposed to backpacking) where I can load as much crap as I want in the car and just set up camp (tent, etc.) within immediate walking distance from my vehicle. Maybe I'm using the term incorrectly/too narrowly, because it seems most people use the phrase "car camping" to mean sleeping in the car.
Moraine14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:43 pm
However, when I've referred to "car camping", what I meant to say is that it's a drive-up campsite (as opposed to backpacking) where I can load as much crap as I want in the car and just set up camp (tent, etc.) within immediate walking distance from my vehicle.
That’s how I’ve always used the term “car camping.”
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Moraine14 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:43 pm
However, when I've referred to "car camping", what I meant to say is that it's a drive-up campsite (as opposed to backpacking) where I can load as much crap as I want in the car and just set up camp (tent, etc.) within immediate walking distance from my vehicle.
That’s how I’ve always used the term “car camping.”
Me too. Sleeping in a vehicle is not car camping. I also don't consider it camping as there is no "footprint" on the ground.
I grew up “car camping” with my mom at bluegrass festivals. Pack the car to the roof with everything imaginable, including a sink, set up posh campsite to play music well into the night.
Now I camp/sleep in my truck/car on a real mattress in a sleeping bag. Only time I get into a tent is when I backpack. But I also camp in my car ALL winter long. -19F, no big deal. Comfy and cozy.
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