stuck truck on Mt. Cameron

[whoch]

I might have tried this in a company truck, but not my own.

[Jim Davies]

Some news stories on the 2000 incident above Silverton:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums//ar ... 08161.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2000/aug/0 ... s_removed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best quote:

In the case of Texan Gary Hatcher and his brother and young
niece, the only passenger, the men apparently were lured to their
precarious perches above California Gulch by a sheep trail, said
Bureau of Land Management Alpine Ranger Lisa Richardson.

Texans and sheep, a dangerous combination....

[whoch]

A man has got to know his limitations. And his truck's.

[pnolans]

You mean AHDD there Doctor Brian ?

Nope... back then we called it AADD. I thought you'd be familiar with it...

http://healthcalls.com/

I'm not a doctor, but I did sleep a Holiday Inn Express once.

It's STILL sometimes called ADD or ADHD. There are those who think it's "official" title is ADHD, but it is STILL correct to call it
either... oh look, something shiny! I wonder where... Wow, she's cute!

[TylerStorm]

All that would take is a truck with someone who could "actually drive" to get up past him, turn around, throw a winch cable on him and drag his ass out of there...then drive his truck down for him so that there is no repeat. I have been stuck and help to unstick in 10x the difficulty of that.

Are you serious?!?!?!? Remind me not to go 4-wheeling with you! I don't think you realize how unstable that scree really is, and what would happen to another truck (with or without someone who could "actually drive") that tried to winch him out of there while sitting on a similar foundation.

The last time this happened (no, it isn't the first), it took a set of anchors driven down to solid ground, a block and tackle system, and more work than I can even imagine to get the vehicle out of there. I just wish I could find the picture that was in the news..........

If you saw his Jeep, you'd understand!

[mountaingoat-G]

Some news stories on the 2000 incident above Silverton:
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums//ar ... 08161.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2000/aug/0 ... s_removed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Best quote:

In the case of Texan Gary Hatcher and his brother and young
niece, the only passenger, the men apparently were lured to their
precarious perches above California Gulch by a sheep trail, said
Bureau of Land Management Alpine Ranger Lisa Richardson.

Texans and sheep, a dangerous combination....

Thanks for the link Jim!
I lived in Durango at the time and remember how everyone felt. I shudder to think of the damage that was caused both by their initial trip and by the rescue effort.

[bayouboy]

Im just thinking of other ways to get that sucker off the mountain... Hire a chopper ($$$$) to fly it out of there. A really strong one capable of hauling that much payload in the air....Not sure if one exists - Im not a whiz on choppers - just thinking hypothetically. OR tear it up part for part. Its the Decalibron Salvage Yard, he he.

CH-47 Chinook

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-47_Chinook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[larkinrx2]

CH-47 Chinook

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-47_Chinook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

good luck finding one not military or being used for forest fires / logging
the last civilian ones i knew where the old Pan Am shuttles used in NYC

you could buy Russian
http://www.asiatradingonline.com/russia ... pter26.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Wentzl]

You mean AHDD there Doctor Brian ?

Nope... back then we called it AADD. I thought you'd be familiar with it...

http://healthcalls.com/

I'm not a doctor, but I did sleep a Holiday Inn Express once.

It's STILL sometimes called ADD or ADHD. There are those who think it's "official" title is ADHD, but it is STILL correct to call it
either... oh look, something shiny! I wonder where... Wow, she's cute!

ADD - Attention Deficit Disorder
ADHD - Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
AADD - Adult Attention Deficit Disorder

Not the same, not interchangeable, a different miracle drug for each. And don't forget ODD, Oppositional Defiance Disorder.

[wildlobo71]

. . . a different miracle drug for each.

That sums up the entire reason why there were no such diagnosis of these disorders prior to 20 years ago. Miracle drugs = $$ billions $$

[Hunter]

I'm hoping it stays up there for another two weeks. We do quite a bit of our peak bagging at night and route finding is sometimes challenging. This monument could serve as a good indication if we've gotten off trail. It might also serve as shelter if the forecast calls for a whiteout.

I'm left in a quandary even though this is on Cameron as to the process of getting the vehicle out of there without causing lasting damage to the area. Taking one or even two more trucks up there to assist will most likely tear up the area right? I can see a Cat D8 making quick progress, but again it would cause lasting damage. Can this be solved by augmenting the vehicle stuck? Adding some Matt Tracks cost less than a rescue attempt and cause the least amount of damage? Just throwing out an idea. I just would rather not see evidence of this 5 years from now when I go back up with my sons. If there's a place to submit it- I'd vote for it to show up on Darwin's Honorable Mention for 2009. Without question, the land owners have to be at least irritated by another display of stupidity and yes this hurts all the efforts of Bill and others over the past few years, but the focus should be on getting it out while causing the least impact...and soon. Just as several have mentioned the weather is changing and the window to do anything is closing.

[marscip]

He could get it out with a cable attached up hill where he could swing it back on a wide arc back onto the trail. Once he gets the downhill wheel on the trail he should be able to retrace back out of there. They better hurry because winter is coming very soon.

I would say he has about a week before it starts to get nasty up there. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I'm surprised no news organization is covering this. Somebody on this forum is a policeman or knows one. Plug in the license plate number and reveal this guy to us. Never mind I didn't say that. Pretty embarrassing to say the least.

Showed up on http://www.kdvr.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; this morning - http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-stuck-tru ... otogallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;