Rattlesnake on 14ers?

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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by justiner » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:24 pm

They're all over the place near the Flatirons/Eldo. But that's certainly not 14er territory.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by mtree » Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:46 am

Although its possible to find the occasional rattler in a microclimate above 7000 feet or so, they're extremely rare. I live around 8000 feet and have NEVER seen one on my property!

I wouldn't worry about it. Your chances of seeing one above 9000 feet is close to zero. The only trailheads that come to mind with climates that might support a rattler is the lower parts of Lake Como road and the lower section of Barr Trail due to its elevation. Can't think of any others I'd worry about.

Last thought, although the San Luis trailhead LOOKS like a good climate to support rattlesnakes I think its too high and too cold. Same with the Willow Creek trailhead area.
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Post by ker0uac » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:05 am

Thanks for all the answers.

How about easy hikes in Evergreen, Morrison and Golden? I heard that North Table has lots of them during Spring and Summer.
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Post by ker0uac » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:11 am


My girls received rattlesnake vaccine for several years while living and hiking in a rattlesnake dense area. The vaccine shelf life is only pertinent to the veterinarian administering it, so it doesn't matter to the dog owner. The first shot requires a booster shot two weeks later, then just one shot a year. It is not a vaccine like a virus vaccine, it doesn't always work and it doesn't cover all rattlesnake venoms. The best it can do is slightly reduce the reaction and lengthen the time one has to get their bitten dog to a vet to receive anti-venom. The vaccine does not cover all the rattlesnake species present in Colorado, you'll have to check with your vet to find out which species it is for.

I can't remember exactly the cost, but I think it was $30 per dog once a year for a 60 pound dog. There are training courses for dogs/owners to help avoid rattlesnake bites which is probably more valuable than the vaccine. Although, the vaccine plus training is the best option if hiking in rattlesnake country is unavoidable.
I will definitely get the vaccine. Despite low efficacy, the cost/benefit is not bad. I am considering taking him to the rattlesnake avoidance training. It's a little controversial in today's PC world, but I think my pup is too curious and adventurous to let snakes go with just positive training.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by nsaladin » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:48 am

Saw a couple photos and videos from last season of a rattlesnake just below the Mt. Lindsey TH on the road.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by Mtnman200 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:09 am

I have yet to see a rattlesnake in Colorado, and I've been doing 13ers and 14ers since 1970. Rattlers are extremely low on my list of concerns in the mountains.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by mtree » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:15 am

A friend of mine caught a FATTY at his home outside Blackhawk a few years ago. Elevation of 8400 feet. He kept it for awhile. Pretty cool to have a "pet" rattlesnake. So they're out there in some favorable microclimates. Just very rare.

But its needless worry if you're hiking 14ers...or 13ers...or 12ers.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by dwoodward13 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:33 am

ker0uac wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:05 am
Thanks for all the answers.

How about easy hikes in Evergreen, Morrison and Golden? I heard that North Table has lots of them during Spring and Summer.
Ya they are all over in the foothills parks, especially the more wide open parks such as Green Mountain (Lakewood). I'd guess there's less of a chance of a run in a bit higher in Evergreen. I've ran into 2 on Mt. Morrision on the same hike once.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by peter303 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:12 pm

I am waiting for the first rattlesnake claim to summit every 14er.
We have had at least one dog already.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by Harmit » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:39 pm

The rattlesnake vaccine, produced by Red Rock Biologics, is specifically designed to produce antibodies against the venom of the western diamondback rattlesnake. The vaccine may also be effective against other snakes with similar venom, such as the sidewinder, timber rattlesnake, and copperhead. The vaccine does not protect against the venom of water moccasins or coral snakes.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by rijaca » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:54 pm

Almost all the rattlesnakes in CO are prairie rattlesnakes. No western diamondbacks in CO.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by Harmit » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:33 pm

Indeed...here is nice summary of our rattly friends in Colorado...https://pawsathomecare.com/blog/rattles ... -colorado/
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