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Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
+1 for Gandalf69’s suggestion, don’t do it.
My advice is to stay away from that Windstopper fleece garbage, once it gets wet, you’re screwed.
My advice is to stay away from that Windstopper fleece garbage, once it gets wet, you’re screwed.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
I’d say just harden the eff up. I haven’t done much hiking in the rain but I have done several 20 plus mile runs and 100 plus mile rides in terrible conditions. Get cold, just go faster. If it’s just a day out you’ll be fine. Multi-day you’ll probably want a way to dry out.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
Runs and rides are a lot different than climbs. You can't just power through wet slab, disintegrating soil banks, or an electric storm. Without even considering comfort or temperature even light rain can cause significant technical challenges to arise that should not be taken lightly.AndrewLyonsGeibel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:34 pm I’d say just harden the eff up. I haven’t done much hiking in the rain but I have done several 20 plus mile runs and 100 plus mile rides in terrible conditions. Get cold, just go faster. If it’s just a day out you’ll be fine. Multi-day you’ll probably want a way to dry out.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
Almost all of my running has been higher altitude trails. Doesn’t matter what you wear, a wet slab is gonna be slippery. Lightning strikes all over the place so maybe try to avoid that. They just asked about rain and maybe I wrongly assumed day hikes.timewarp01 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:39 pmRuns and rides are a lot different than climbs. You can't just power through wet slab, disintegrating soil banks, or an electric storm. Without even considering comfort or temperature even light rain can cause significant technical challenges to arise that should not be taken lightly.AndrewLyonsGeibel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:34 pm I’d say just harden the eff up. I haven’t done much hiking in the rain but I have done several 20 plus mile runs and 100 plus mile rides in terrible conditions. Get cold, just go faster. If it’s just a day out you’ll be fine. Multi-day you’ll probably want a way to dry out.
Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
It rained all night and all morning today. Drizzle to medium rain. No lightning. Loads of people summitted. Morning rain was a nice change of pace from the recent heat.LoveThisSite wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:44 am Weather forecast this weekend isn't looking that great. Obviously early start but I wouldn't mind climbing in the rain as long as there is no lightning. Kinda enjoy being out in the rain actually. Any tips for climbing in the rain? I'll obviously have a shell and waterproof boots, and I just realized a pack cover is probably a good idea.
Frogg Toggs are awesome. Not breathable nor durable but they're waterproof, lightweight, and cheap. $15-20. If you carry a small pack the smallest size ("S/M") will fit over your pack and whatever warmer layers you need. Looks absolutely ridiculous.
Gloves are a must. Light fleece gloves seem to work nicely and stay warm in light rain. $5. Also not sexy.
Personal preference but I like light, breathable shoes, tights and shorts. All fast drying rather than mythically waterproof. If you get too cold, throw on the Togg bottoms. Standard layers up top (under the Toggs) up to a light puffy if needed.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
What this guy said. I have run ultra marathons and I have to say the most enlightening moment was on the Lake City 50. Way up high. Mid day. I am running behind a guy, we are watching thunder storms roll over the ridge we are running on and he turns to me and says, and I quote, "I am a doctor. Do you know CPR?"AndrewLyonsGeibel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:34 pm I’d say just harden the eff up. I haven’t done much hiking in the rain but I have done several 20 plus mile runs and 100 plus mile rides in terrible conditions. Get cold, just go faster. If it’s just a day out you’ll be fine. Multi-day you’ll probably want a way to dry out.
It rained. Lightening occurred. We both survived. As did the other 100 or so runners on the ridge. Really opened my eyes.
Get cold, run faster.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
http://blog.alpineinstitute.com/2011/03 ... loops.htmlWentzl wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:20 pm
What this guy said. I have run ultra marathons and I have to say the most enlightening moment was on the Lake City 50. Way up high. Mid day. I am running behind a guy, we are watching thunder storms roll over the ridge we are running on and he turns to me and says, and I quote, "I am a doctor. Do you know CPR?"
It rained. Lightening occurred. We both survived. As did the other 100 or so runners on the ridge. Really opened my eyes.
Get cold, run faster.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
That article does suggest you are paying attention.
Two schools of thought, and I don't necessarily agree with the Alpineinstitute, from whom I have taken a course in glacier travel on Mt. Baker some years ago.
The article presents the point that, even if 100 people got away with something, that does not detract from the fact that it is potentially fatal and that you might get killed.
My point is this. The activity may kill you, but 100's of others have gotten by, so your chances are good.
Pick your poison.
Two schools of thought, and I don't necessarily agree with the Alpineinstitute, from whom I have taken a course in glacier travel on Mt. Baker some years ago.
The article presents the point that, even if 100 people got away with something, that does not detract from the fact that it is potentially fatal and that you might get killed.
My point is this. The activity may kill you, but 100's of others have gotten by, so your chances are good.
Pick your poison.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
3 of the 70 fatalities on Longs Peak 1915-2020 have been from lightning strikes. That is @4%.
http://rockymountainhikingtrails.blogsp ... ities.html
The statistics for all of the 14er fatalities are not as clear. Most are falls.
Colorado averages 2 lightning fatalities and 12 injuries a year. El Paso County (Colorado Springs) is the most dangerous lightning county, Golf and outdoor high school sports are the most dangerous lightning activities.
Yes, I have been very scared several times caught in mountain lightning storms.
http://rockymountainhikingtrails.blogsp ... ities.html
The statistics for all of the 14er fatalities are not as clear. Most are falls.
Colorado averages 2 lightning fatalities and 12 injuries a year. El Paso County (Colorado Springs) is the most dangerous lightning county, Golf and outdoor high school sports are the most dangerous lightning activities.
Yes, I have been very scared several times caught in mountain lightning storms.
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Re: Climbing in the rain - any suggestions?
Just a quick note on this past weekend's weather. I bailed, because i was supposed to have the whole family (4 to 8 years old) and my wife thought it best to skip. But, many people were calling the weather patterns "monsoonal" when actually it is the opposite of that. We had a huge pressure system sitting right over the state. The weather is more typical of what you see associated with a high pressure. By definition, high pressure is descending. Conversely, monsoon patterns are associated with moisture from Mexico, low pressure (tends to rise) and combined with the terrain (orographic lifting) it sends the rapidly rising warm moist air upwsrds and causes the convective activity.
Just some geeky weather observstions. Rain isn't always bad, and if I would have had a big trip planned I wouldn't have canceled, like i did over 4th of July for the san juans.
Just some geeky weather observstions. Rain isn't always bad, and if I would have had a big trip planned I wouldn't have canceled, like i did over 4th of July for the san juans.