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Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Plugugly » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:49 am

I very much appreciate all of the great advice on here. I've read all of the previous forums on cold feet, etc and yesterday, I experienced my first cold toes. My boots aren't too tight and my socks seem right and my feet weren't wet. I did stop and put two hand warmers in each (on the toes and at the medial ankle) and they helped a bit.
My question is: if I'm to buy winter boots, what should I get? I'm thinking for long-distance sub-zero, snow and ice-climbing.
I have found a Scarpa Phantom 6000 in my size (14/ 48) for 446.00 but is that necessary? And reading through all the forums here, that may not meet my needs, anyhow.Thanks.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Conor » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:56 am

First question is if you'll be fitting crampons? You say ice climbing....

Second. What were you wearing that gave you issues? Were your feet wet? Or just dry and cold?

I wouldn't recommend a "long distance" boot and something you could ice climb in. To me, they are separate boots, but that's me.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Plugugly » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 am

Conor wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:56 am
First question is if you'll be fitting crampons? You say ice climbing....

Second. What were you wearing that gave you issues? Were your feet wet? Or just dry and cold?

I wouldn't recommend a "long distance" boot and something you could ice climb in. To me, they are separate boots, but that's me.
True. Let's drop the ice-climbing since I'm really talking about saving limbs. Oboz Bridger is what I'm using. Here's my actual question: What boot do y'all wear that you haven't had cold issues in?
Thanks again
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Wildernessjane » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 am

Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 am
Conor wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:56 am
First question is if you'll be fitting crampons? You say ice climbing....

Second. What were you wearing that gave you issues? Were your feet wet? Or just dry and cold?

I wouldn't recommend a "long distance" boot and something you could ice climb in. To me, they are separate boots, but that's me.
True. Let's drop the ice-climbing since I'm really talking about saving limbs. Oboz Bridger is what I'm using. Here's my actual question: What boot do y'all wear that you haven't had cold issues in?
Thanks again
Interesting. I really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them. The Salomon Toundras would be a step up in terms of warmth and also quite comfortable. You could go all day in these. Personally, I prefer the stiffer sole of the Oboz but these are really good too.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Plugugly » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:15 am

Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 am
Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 am
Conor wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:56 am
First question is if you'll be fitting crampons? You say ice climbing....

Second. What were you wearing that gave you issues? Were your feet wet? Or just dry and cold?

I wouldn't recommend a "long distance" boot and something you could ice climb in. To me, they are separate boots, but that's me.
True. Let's drop the ice-climbing since I'm really talking about saving limbs. Oboz Bridger is what I'm using. Here's my actual question: What boot do y'all wear that you haven't had cold issues in?
Thanks again
Interesting. I really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them. The Salomon Toundras would be a step up in terms of warmth and also quite comfortable.
Hey, CaptCo wanted to argue with you about the Salomons...read that last night. That post got me questioning the Scarpa Phantom. Maybe I'll try the Toundras...
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by CaptCO » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:17 am

Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:15 am
Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 am
Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 am


True. Let's drop the ice-climbing since I'm really talking about saving limbs. Oboz Bridger is what I'm using. Here's my actual question: What boot do y'all wear that you haven't had cold issues in?
Thanks again
Interesting. I really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them. The Salomon Toundras would be a step up in terms of warmth and also quite comfortable.
Hey, CaptCo wanted to argue with you about the Salomons...read that last night. That post got me questioning the Scarpa Phantom. Maybe I'll try the Toundras...
I paid MSRP for the Solomon’s a week ago. I’ve done Phoenix and a few other peaks but will be taking them back for Nepal Cubes soon. My phantoms are still collecting dust, wish I had the more streamlined version vs the 8000. To each their own, I’ve realized I’m doing more than most people lately, and need a boot to suit the job
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Wildernessjane » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:21 am

Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:15 am
Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 am
Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 am


True. Let's drop the ice-climbing since I'm really talking about saving limbs. Oboz Bridger is what I'm using. Here's my actual question: What boot do y'all wear that you haven't had cold issues in?
Thanks again
Interesting. I really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them. The Salomon Toundras would be a step up in terms of warmth and also quite comfortable.
Hey, CaptCo wanted to argue with you about the Salomons...read that last night. That post got me questioning the Scarpa Phantom.
Lol yeah I think he was taking that up with someone else. I think he was questioning the idea of using “lesser” boots versus mountaineering boots in Colorado. My thinking is I would like to extend the life of my mountaineering boots and there are other options that are plenty warm and even more comfortable for days I’m not wearing crampons for a long time. I have a pair of the Phantom 6000’s that I’ve used mostly internationally. Personally, I prefer the Nepal Evos for ice climbing because I feel I have more dexterity (if that’s a thing in boots). The Phantoms come in Men’s only though so they are kind of a sloppy fit for me and I have to wear multiple insoles.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Wildernessjane » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am

CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:17 am
Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:15 am
Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 am


Interesting. I really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them. The Salomon Toundras would be a step up in terms of warmth and also quite comfortable.
Hey, CaptCo wanted to argue with you about the Salomons...read that last night. That post got me questioning the Scarpa Phantom. Maybe I'll try the Toundras...
I paid MSRP for the Solomon’s a week ago. I’ve done Phoenix and a few other peaks but will be taking them back for Nepal Cubes soon. My phantoms are still collecting dust, wish I had the more streamlined version vs the 8000. To each their own, I’ve realized I’m doing more than most people lately, and need a boot to suit the job
For what it’s worth, I believe SarahT told me once she did the majority of the winter 14ers in Salomon Toundras. To each his own though. The Nepal Evos are a great boot though. I’ve spent 20+ hours in them and find them quite comfortable.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by CaptCO » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am

Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am
CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:17 am
Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:15 am


Hey, CaptCo wanted to argue with you about the Salomons...read that last night. That post got me questioning the Scarpa Phantom. Maybe I'll try the Toundras...
I paid MSRP for the Solomon’s a week ago. I’ve done Phoenix and a few other peaks but will be taking them back for Nepal Cubes soon. My phantoms are still collecting dust, wish I had the more streamlined version vs the 8000. To each their own, I’ve realized I’m doing more than most people lately, and need a boot to suit the job
For what it’s worth, I believe SarahT told me once she did the majority of the winter 14ers in Salomon Toundras. To each his own.
I’m using the winter model just under the Toundras w 200g thinsulate and high top, that model looks sexy. And Sarah T is much more badass than I’ll ever be
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Plugugly » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:30 am

CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am
Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am
CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:17 am


I paid MSRP for the Solomon’s a week ago. I’ve done Phoenix and a few other peaks but will be taking them back for Nepal Cubes soon. My phantoms are still collecting dust, wish I had the more streamlined version vs the 8000. To each their own, I’ve realized I’m doing more than most people lately, and need a boot to suit the job
For what it’s worth, I believe SarahT told me once she did the majority of the winter 14ers in Salomon Toundras. To each his own.
I’m using the winter model just under the Toundras w 200g thinsulate and high top, that model looks sexy. And Sarah T is much more badass than I’ll ever be
Ok Conor, Sarah and the Capt, Toundras or Phantom 6000s?
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by CaptCO » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:32 am

Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:30 am
CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am
Wildernessjane wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am


For what it’s worth, I believe SarahT told me once she did the majority of the winter 14ers in Salomon Toundras. To each his own.
I’m using the winter model just under the Toundras w 200g thinsulate and high top, that model looks sexy. And Sarah T is much more badass than I’ll ever be
Ok Conor, Sarah and the Capt, Toundras or Phantom 6000s?
Cubes.. Toundras for most winter 14er hiking people will do on here. Phantoms for pons & showing these morons you can do more than they think (excluding Jane she's awesome) Give me another season and I'll know what to recommend
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots

Post by Plugugly » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:46 am

CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:32 am
Plugugly wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:30 am
CaptCO wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:24 am


I’m using the winter model just under the Toundras w 200g thinsulate and high top, that model looks sexy. And Sarah T is much more badass than I’ll ever be
Ok Conor, Sarah and the Capt, Toundras or Phantom 6000s?
Cubes.. Toundras for most winter 14er hiking people will do on here. Phantoms for pons & showing these morons you can do more than they think (excluding Jane she's awesome) Give me another season and I'll know what to recommend
Jane?
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