Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
Honestly though, if you're not needing crampons or go out below 10* weather the Salos will do just fine. They make some of the comfiest footwear in this niche. They're $180-200 so not expensive whatsoever for a Winter boot. Like Jane said, use one pair for hiking, and another for technical trips (phantom). Do you have a rough schedule/agenda of plans for the Winter?
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I absolutely love my Nepals (Cubes) and I’ve spent 20+ hours in them quite comfortably (admittedly you won’t find a lot of people saying that about mountaineering boots in general though, it’s all relative). People will tell you they are overkill for Colorado 14ers in winter and that is true in a lot of cases but you already have the Oboz for mellower outings. The Nepals would do everything you had on your original list (e.g., steep snow, ice) but the only problem is they are not going to be any warmer than the Oboz (I’m assuming you have insulated Bridger 10” B-Dry version?). I find the Phantoms to be very clunky and heavy but they would be a great investment if you want to get into bigger mountains outside of the continental US. So, I would say it depends on your long term goals...Plugugly wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:46 amJane?
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yeah, let's back up...are we talking about the bridger or the bridger insulated? And were the feet wet or dry when this "cold" event happened?Wildernessjane wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:55 amI absolutely love my Nepals (Cubes) and I’ve spent 20+ hours in them quite comfortably (admittedly you won’t find a lot of people saying that about mountaineering boots in general though, it’s all relative). People will tell you they are overkill for Colorado 14ers in winter and that is true in a lot of cases but you already have the Oboz for mellower outings. The Nepals would do everything you had on your original list (e.g., steep snow, ice) but the only problem is they are not going to be any warmer than the Oboz (I’m assuming you have insulated Bridger 10” B-Dry version?). I find the Phantoms to be very clunky and heavy but they would be a great investment if you want to get into bigger mountains outside of the continental US. So, I would say it depends on your long term goals...
I can spend all day in my cubes as well. I'll wear them for a night out on the town. But, I will always be faster in something like an insulated bridger than I will in cubes (1 lb / boot lighter, less stiff boot).
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
NOT insulated! Feet were dry. Toundras don't come in 14 (apparently--waiting for their reply). Looking at the 10" bridger bdry insulated just found in my size. Thanks again.Conor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:16 amyeah, let's back up...are we talking about the bridger or the bridger insulated? And were the feet wet or dry when this "cold" event happened?Wildernessjane wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:55 amI absolutely love my Nepals (Cubes) and I’ve spent 20+ hours in them quite comfortably (admittedly you won’t find a lot of people saying that about mountaineering boots in general though, it’s all relative). People will tell you they are overkill for Colorado 14ers in winter and that is true in a lot of cases but you already have the Oboz for mellower outings. The Nepals would do everything you had on your original list (e.g., steep snow, ice) but the only problem is they are not going to be any warmer than the Oboz (I’m assuming you have insulated Bridger 10” B-Dry version?). I find the Phantoms to be very clunky and heavy but they would be a great investment if you want to get into bigger mountains outside of the continental US. So, I would say it depends on your long term goals...
I can spend all day in my cubes as well. I'll wear them for a night out on the town. But, I will always be faster in something like an insulated bridger than I will in cubes (1 lb / boot lighter, less stiff boot).
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
i own the Columbia version of the Toundra- the Canuk, which i believe is now the Powderhouse. my feet have never gotten cold or wet, they're comfort rated to -65*, completely waterproof, work well with spikes and snowshoes.. but they do take a few miles break in period to loosen up in the ankle.
https://www.columbia.com/p/mens-powderh ... 010&pos=28
background: non-technical climber, usually use these with snowshoes
https://www.columbia.com/p/mens-powderh ... 010&pos=28
background: non-technical climber, usually use these with snowshoes
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
IF I were to buy insulated boots, I would get the keen revel Iv. only because I get 50% off. Check deals that may be available to you through outlets like AAC, CMC etc.
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Same. Great boots.Wildernessjane wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 amI really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them.
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According to this review, the Bridgers are even warmer than the Toundras (which is interesting because they are not nearly as bulky and I’ve taken the Toundras out in some pretty dang cold conditions)... https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/ ... -insulatedHikerGuy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:56 amSame. Great boots.Wildernessjane wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:11 amI really, really like the Oboz Bridger insulated B-Dry boots and I’ve never had cold feet in them.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
+1 for Oboz 10" Bridger 400 g insulated.
They are my default winter/spring snow boots. In addition to your average winter ridge walk, they have worked well in my universal attachment crampons up Angel of Shavano, Holy Cross Couloir, Missouri N Face Couloir, Little Bear in April 2019, and Sneffels in May 2019. The pseudo heel welt keeps things in place. The only time I have been less than impressed at their waterproofing was when I spent 16+ hours in wet, wet spring snow up La Plata + Elbert & Co. last May, but I was due to reapply some DWR by then (2 years old).
They are my default winter/spring snow boots. In addition to your average winter ridge walk, they have worked well in my universal attachment crampons up Angel of Shavano, Holy Cross Couloir, Missouri N Face Couloir, Little Bear in April 2019, and Sneffels in May 2019. The pseudo heel welt keeps things in place. The only time I have been less than impressed at their waterproofing was when I spent 16+ hours in wet, wet spring snow up La Plata + Elbert & Co. last May, but I was due to reapply some DWR by then (2 years old).
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
I recently started using Toasty Feet insoles which seem to help. Also, I think wearing gaiters help keep feet warm too.
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Re: Warmest but comfortable and long-distance boots
Thanks, everyone. At this time I'm going with the Bridger 10" 400g.
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