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Re: 14er stomach prep

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For me the excitement/anxiety is what used to do it for me. Along with poor food choices. Waking up early with an unhappy stomach before it could digest all the food. And then the anxiety. I never threw up but all would always have the urge to and just felt crappy for the 1st hour or so.
Took a food allergy test and cut out all the foods that my body doesnt like. Which helped in many ways, including less anxiety in general.
I also started hunting and fishing more.....so now I wake up at 3 to 5am atleast once a week, all year with similar excitement as going on a climb.
Havent had any real issues in the last few years
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justiner wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:52 pm Perpetuem has been hard to find (although you could just make your own...).
I'm down to three single packs, but rev. 2.0 is almost there. Hammer website says "expected in stock 8/12" (they don't say what year).

Tapioca Maltodextrin this time, probably because non-GMO corn doesn't exist any more. The name of the Devil is/was Monsanto.
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cedica wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:22 am I'm down to three single packs, but rev. 2.0 is almost there. Hammer website says "expected in stock 8/12" (they don't say what year).

Tapioca Maltodextrin this time, probably because non-GMO corn doesn't exist any more. The name of the Devil is/was Monsanto.
Interesting. Tapioca Maltodextrin is like $10/kilo, so it should be enlightening to see what Hammer charges for their concoction.
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I've had some stomach issues especially on those early morning Alpine starts where you're up 4 - 6 hours earlier than my normal wake up time and then push up a mountain. Often by getting a later start or at least better sleep, my stomach feels better on average.
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I sometimes feel this way if I get rolling a little too fast first thing in the morning, especially if I’m getting up much earlier than normal. Starting out slowly to both “warm up” and “wake up” seems to make the difference for me. Also second the suggestions to experiment with putting off food intake just a bit to see if that makes a difference. I also swear by Hammer Perpetuem powder (never had any issues with it causing reflux or problems finding it - I just resupplied at a local cycling shop). Hammer’s Recoverite product is great too.
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Your stomach produces more acid at altitude, and that is a common cause for gastric distress. I suffer from this symptom from time to time, though rarely when waking up from camping. It's why my first aid kit always contains antacid.

That said, to prep for such expected fluctuations, I would consider a regimen of proton pump inhibitors, which tamp down your stomach's ability to produce the problematic acid before it happens. You might want to advise your doctor just to be safe, but they are over the counter and quite low risk. One important caveat is that you need to build them up in your system over time, so I would take them daily for the entire week leading up to the hike.

Of course, dehydration could be a factor leading to this nausea, but usually people hiking these peaks are keenly attentive to that, so I assume it's not the issue.
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RockiesAdrian wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:09 am Your stomach produces more acid at altitude, and that is a common cause for gastric distress. I suffer from this symptom from time to time, though rarely when waking up from camping. It's why my first aid kit always contains antacid.

That said, to prep for such expected fluctuations, I would consider a regimen of proton pump inhibitors, which tamp down your stomach's ability to produce the problematic acid before it happens. You might want to advise your doctor just to be safe, but they are over the counter and quite low risk. One important caveat is that you need to build them up in your system over time, so I would take them daily for the entire week leading up to the hike.
I'd be careful with these. And ironically most of the side effects from PPI's are the same symptoms of altitude sickness.
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nyker wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:34 pm
RockiesAdrian wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:09 am Your stomach produces more acid at altitude, and that is a common cause for gastric distress. I suffer from this symptom from time to time, though rarely when waking up from camping. It's why my first aid kit always contains antacid.

That said, to prep for such expected fluctuations, I would consider a regimen of proton pump inhibitors, which tamp down your stomach's ability to produce the problematic acid before it happens. You might want to advise your doctor just to be safe, but they are over the counter and quite low risk. One important caveat is that you need to build them up in your system over time, so I would take them daily for the entire week leading up to the hike.
I'd be careful with these. And ironically most of the side effects from PPI's are the same symptoms of altitude sickness.
Yeah, I agree. Plus if the OP is like many people I know, he or she gets out almost every weekend so that means we are now taking PPI’s pretty much all the time. Best look into the potential long terms side effects of taking these because they are not trivial.
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Wildernessjane wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:15 pm
nyker wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:34 pm
RockiesAdrian wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:09 am Your stomach produces more acid at altitude, and that is a common cause for gastric distress. I suffer from this symptom from time to time, though rarely when waking up from camping. It's why my first aid kit always contains antacid.

That said, to prep for such expected fluctuations, I would consider a regimen of proton pump inhibitors, which tamp down your stomach's ability to produce the problematic acid before it happens. You might want to advise your doctor just to be safe, but they are over the counter and quite low risk. One important caveat is that you need to build them up in your system over time, so I would take them daily for the entire week leading up to the hike.
I'd be careful with these. And ironically most of the side effects from PPI's are the same symptoms of altitude sickness.
Yeah, I agree. Plus if the OP is like many people I know, he or she gets out almost every weekend so that means we are now taking PPI’s pretty much all the time. Best look into the potential long terms side effects of taking these because they are not trivial.
Plus, if these are panic attacks, then that stuff is not going to help you much and will do nothing to solve the bigger problem. I think a lot of people in this thread are confusing regular stomach issues with what might might be going on here. Anyhow, you need to start ruling out stuff one thing at a time either way. I think OP's gut instinct is it's an anxiety attack (like my pun!). Start there and if that is ruled out, then move on to other possibilities.
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onebyone wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:27 pmI think OP's gut instinct is it's an anxiety attack (like my pun!).
Ugh, +10 points for you, this one literally got me to chuckle.

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