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Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by curt86iroc » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:23 am

Bringing this post over from Mountain Project. It seems Backcountry.com has been suing small businesses that use the word "backcountry" in their name and trying to run them out of business. Most disturbing, they filed a lawsuit earlier this year against Backcountry Babes, an outdoor education group for women that operates in CO. info below:

https://www.mountainproject.com/forum/t ... aying-nice

https://coloradosun.com/2019/10/31/back ... -business/

https://www.kunr.org/post/backcountryco ... k#stream/0

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pnam ... %20&page=1

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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by speth » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am

If you don’t defend your trademark, you’re effectively abandoning it in the eyes of the law. Feel good - no. Business smart - probably.
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by curt86iroc » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:28 am

speth wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am
If you don’t defend your trademark, you’re effectively abandoning it in the eyes of the law. Feel good - no. Business smart - probably.
it's one thing to sue another business, but suing an outdoor education organization is different...
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by ZNixon » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:37 am

curt86iroc wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:23 am
Most disturbing, they filed a lawsuit earlier this year against Backcountry Babes

Oh no!! Not the babes!!! ](*,) :cry:
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by FCSquid » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:47 am

Everybody needs to head up to Frisco and pound as many beers from Backcountry Brewing as you possibly can. Then, when they become a brewing leviathan due to every skier and hiker patronizing their business, they'll be big enough to sue the other 'Backcountry' company into oblivion.
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by FireOnTheMountain » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:54 am

Ha! The sweet new/consignment gear shop in town used to be called Backcountry Pursuit, then BC.come lawyers called em up. Its now called Boise Gear Collective. That happened like 9 months ago.
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by martinleroux » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:06 am

speth wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am
If you don’t defend your trademark, you’re effectively abandoning it in the eyes of the law.
Well, yes, of course, but "backcountry" is a generic term, and most of us are having difficulty understanding how a company called Marquette Backcountry Skis might somehow be infringing on whatever trademark is claimed by Backcountry.com. After all, Backcountry.com has co-existed with brands like Backcountry Magazine, Backcountry Access and Backcountrygear.com for many years. It's very strange that Backcountry.com is inviting bad publicity and risking customer backlash by going after a small company that doesn't even compete with them in the first place, yet they're leaving well-established brands alone.
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by Chicago Transplant » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:09 am

I agree with Martin, "backcountry" is a generic term. Its like Ohio State trying to trademark "The" (Which it did, and was denied).

I'll continue to support the local shops as much as I can, like Alpine Quest and Ptarmigan Sports in Edwards and Wilderness Sports in Summit for my backcountry needs.
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by summitrunner » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:14 am

FCSquid wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:47 am
Everybody needs to head up to Frisco and pound as many beers from Backcountry Brewing as you possibly can. Then, when they become a brewing leviathan due to every skier and hiker patronizing their business, they'll be big enough to sue the other 'Backcountry' company into oblivion.
It closed!
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by jchapell » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:59 am

martinleroux wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:06 am
speth wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am
If you don’t defend your trademark, you’re effectively abandoning it in the eyes of the law.
Well, yes, of course, but "backcountry" is a generic term, and most of us are having difficulty understanding how a company called Marquette Backcountry Skis might somehow be infringing on whatever trademark is claimed by Backcountry.com. After all, Backcountry.com has co-existed with brands like Backcountry Magazine, Backcountry Access and Backcountrygear.com for many years. It's very strange that Backcountry.com is inviting bad publicity and risking customer backlash by going after a small company that doesn't even compete with them in the first place, yet they're leaving well-established brands alone.
I wondered why backcountryedge.com just changed to enwild.com, and backcountry deli just changed to yampa deli...interesting. And kind of dumb. TSG Partners (private equity firm) acquired a majority stake in Backcountry in 2015, and you can be sure this is a TSG move.

I'm positive a way to ensure other silly corporate tactics like this trademark enforcement is to lower their sales without any communication. Instead - write a letter, call them, send in complaints with reasonable thoughts.


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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by curt86iroc » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:28 am

You can also email customerexperience@backcountry.com and tell them your dissatisfaction. I have already done this and received a quick response. thought not to my liking, they at least responded to my email.
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Re: Consider Not Buying from Backcountry.com

Post by speth » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:34 am

martinleroux wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:06 am
speth wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 am
If you don’t defend your trademark, you’re effectively abandoning it in the eyes of the law.
Well, yes, of course, but "backcountry" is a generic term, and most of us are having difficulty understanding how a company called Marquette Backcountry Skis might somehow be infringing on whatever trademark is claimed by Backcountry.com. After all, Backcountry.com has co-existed with brands like Backcountry Magazine, Backcountry Access and Backcountrygear.com for many years. It's very strange that Backcountry.com is inviting bad publicity and risking customer backlash by going after a small company that doesn't even compete with them in the first place, yet they're leaving well-established brands alone.
I'm not defending them, I'm just pointing out what they're incentivized to do.
I'll be damned if I feel like I will ever know anything, but if we don't keep moving on that last hill, we'll never know what's on the other side.
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All I want is to just have fun, live my life like a son of a gun
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[-X What are you insinuating? Do you think I'm Ranger? =; Because if you do than you are dead wrong.
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Sarcasm or not, it's not even funny to post something like this. Not at this time. Reported.
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