Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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Was just wondering if anyone had ever done the ridge between Mt. Wilson and Gladstone Peak. I was looking at the 360 Summit Panorama from the summit of Gladstone and the ridge looks difficult but doable. And if it could/has been done, could you then traverse from El Diente all the way to Wilson Peak without dropping off a ridge?
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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There's a big-ass cliff along the ridge to mt. Wilson. Check the panorama from mt wilson.
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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yaktoleft13 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:56 pm There's a big-ass cliff along the ridge to mt. Wilson. Check the panorama from mt wilson.
Your right, thats a big cliff. Would you have to rappel down it? (not that I'm going to try)
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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I guess that's potentially doable, although I would not want to be in charge of making that anchor. Rock quality is dire, so some shenanigans may need to be done - perhaps even a deadman anchor. Doesn't look like you lose to much additional elevation by just going the standard route down until you meet the glacier though.

From Gladstone, the easiest way to get to Mt. Wilson is down a chossy gully - a place I may not want to be with a partner, as things are easily let loose. That gully will lead you close to the glacier, where you can then pick up the standard route. It goes, but it's not all that pleasant (or safe). If you do take the ridge from Wilson Peak to Gladstone, I would go back the way you came, rather than think of that gully as a great place to make your escape.

If it's Spring snow conditions, things could be different.
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I agree with Justin. Don't think I'd want to bother rappelling that cliff. My memory is a little hazy, but I'd guess it's somewhere near 200 feet or so, which means you're hauling at least one long rope up gladstone. The quickest way to wilson from gladstone is either the gully justin mentioned, bailing off the low point on the north ridge (endless loose talus, but definitely goes), or just backtracking all the way to the rock of ages saddle and taking the trail to wilson's north slopes. The latter probably keeps you the most sane...
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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The ridge was done in 1971 by George Bell. He also did the first ascent of Sunlight Spire, and was on the 1953 K2 expedition.
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Your right, thats a big cliff. Would you have to rappel down it? (not that I'm going to try)
I tried it on 7/4/2001 I had just moved to Colorado and Wilson Peak, Mount Wilson, and El Diente were the closest 14ers to where I was working (Nucla).

I didn't have any info and planned to connect Wilson Peak, Gladstone, Mount Wilson, and maybe El Diente (I was in better shape back then).

From Wilson Peak and Gladstone you can't see the big cliff that is lower down. I made it down to that cliff from the top of Gladstone and tried to scout out the cliff to find a ropeless way down, but there isn't one. I remember it as a really dangerous and loose area (the area around the top of the cliff) as well.

The cliffs in the area are ledgy enough that you probably could find a multi-stage rappelling route through them if you are coming down. This would be risky though. First off all, if you do try it you had better know what you are doing and even if you do know what you are doing, it is dangerous to descend and unknown route if you don't know if you have enough rope or not. Better bring ascenders if you were to try it (in case your ropes don't reach). I'd imagine there is a reasonable multi stage rappel route down somewhere, but you had better know how to set up multi-stage rappels with awkward anchors and be ready for a lot of dangerous and loose rock.

PS, although I haven't done the potential rappel rout, I'm almost 100% sure that trying to find a rappel route would be much more time consuming than just retreating back along the NW Ridge and going across the slopes to Navajo Glacier (snowfield).
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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yaktoleft13 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:15 pm My memory is a little hazy, but I'd guess it's somewhere near 200 feet or so, which means you're hauling at least one long rope up gladstone.
Although I didn't try to measure it or make and accurate estimate when I was there, I think it's more than that. It might drop 200 feet vertical, but is ledgy and angled, so if you only had two 60 meter/200 foot ropes, I would guess that it would be at least a two stage rappel. This is only a guess though.
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DaveLanders wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:17 pm The ridge was done in 1971 by George Bell. He also did the first ascent of Sunlight Spire, and was on the 1953 K2 expedition.
Is there an existing trip report from that 1971 effort anywhere?
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If you went from Wilson to Gladstone, would it be an interesting climb up? Or too loose for the climbing crowd?
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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NathanRL wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:29 pm If you went from Wilson to Gladstone, would it be an interesting climb up? Or too loose for the climbing crowd?
I would think that all routes in that area would be loose. Good luck finding anyone who has climbed the route and can answer the first question though. I doubt it has seen many ascents. Mountain Project (erroneously) says that route is unclimbed and the fact that no climbers seem to have taken the author to task for that statement seems to indicate that finding beta would be tough at best.

If it was one of George Bell's early 70's routes then my guess would be that it is loose and insane. All his other routes from that time period seem to be at least.

Maybe ask Monster5. If anyone on this site knows someone who has climbed that ridge, it would be him.
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Re: Mt. Wilson-Gladstone ridge

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handonbroward wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:14 pm
DaveLanders wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:17 pm The ridge was done in 1971 by George Bell. He also did the first ascent of Sunlight Spire, and was on the 1953 K2 expedition.
Is there an existing trip report from that 1971 effort anywhere?
Bell's ascent is referenced in Bueler's "Roof of the Rockies" and in Rosebrough's San Juans guide, but neither one of them says where the info came from. I would start with Trail and Timberline or the American Alpine Journal
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