Mount Evans Renaming Informal Poll

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There are currently 5 proposals to rename Mount Evans; which do you favor?

1 - Mount Blue Sky : While the Arapaho clearly have ties to the land, this particular name has no historic ties to the mountain itself; the Arapaho people are commonly called the Blue Sky People, but this leaves out the Cheyenne people.
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2 - Mount Cheyenne-Arapaho : Again, the Cheyenne and Arapaho have ties to the land, but this name that has no historic ties to the mountain itself; and unfortunately, this name will likely be shortened just like the CU-Boulder dorm of the same name to: Chey-Ho.
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3 - Mount Evans : Rededicate for Anne Evans, who climbed the mountain, lived nearby, and donated her extensive Native American Art collection to the Denver Art Museum, making it the first US art museum to collect Native American Art; rededicating for Anne Evans would make it the only 14er named for a woman. Read more about her here: https://www.cogreatwomen.org/project/anne-evans/
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4 - Mount Rosalie : This was the only known name of the mountain before it was changed to Evans in 1895, but it would require the nearby peak of same name to also be changed. Renaming it Rosalie would make it the only 14er named for a woman.
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5 - Mount Soule : This name has no historic ties to the mountain itself; this honors Silas Soule, who should be commemorated and probably is at the Sand Creek site; read more about him here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silas_Soule
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6 - None of these.
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Having strong opinions against the renaming of one mountain out of the thousands across the state is a surefire way to demonstrate you’re not a snowflake. :-" :roll:

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Trotter wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:56 am Lets name it "Mt Political Correctness" then that nasty pile of rock won't trigger anyone. :P


I bet they gonna go with the Anne "Mt Evans" thing. Much easier and cheaper then actually renaming it
It would seem that the people who are the most triggered by all this are the people who talk about other people being triggered about all of this.

Me? It doesn't affect my life either way, but if it gives me an excuse to reclimb said mountain under the new name, sweet.
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Rather than "cancellation", I suggest "education"

Here's my proposal: Retain Mt Evans' name (to recognize the many accomplishments of John Evans) and name Pt 14256 (aka "West Evans" or Mt. Evans - west peak) Black Kettle Peak (to recognize his role in trying to negotiate peace prior to the Sand Creek massacre).

Despite what you may desire, the world is seldom binary. If you don't know the history (not only the Sand Creek Massacre but that of John Evans' and Black Kettle's lives), I encourage you to explore it. This proposal would result in a broader understanding that history than changing the name of a peak, a wilderness, several cities, a hospital, a university, and other places or things to try to "fix" a wrong.
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glenmiz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:51 am Rather than "cancellation", I suggest "education"

Here's my proposal: Retain Mt Evans' name (to recognize the many accomplishments of John Evans) and name Pt 14256 (aka "West Evans" or Mt. Evans - west peak) Black Kettle Peak (to recognize his role in trying to negotiate peace prior to the Sand Creek massacre).

Despite what you may desire, the world is seldom binary. If you don't know the history (not only the Sand Creek Massacre but that of John Evans' and Black Kettle's lives), I encourage you to explore it. This proposal would result in a broader understanding that history than changing the name of a peak, a wilderness, several cities, a hospital, a university, and other places or things to try to "fix" a wrong.
Why not change Evans to Black Kettle and Pt. 14256 to Evans?
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Why not just un-dedicate the mountain and keep the Evans name, will that appease those offended on someone else's behalf?
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SkaredShtles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:55 am
Mtnman200 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:42 am
Istoodupthere wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:02 am I say every mountain, river, street, school, library with a European name be renamed “I’m Sorry.” As long as all of the people requesting these name changes have background checks
OK, Boomer.
FTFY.

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Istoodupthere wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:01 am
SkaredShtles wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:55 am
Mtnman200 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 8:42 am
OK, Boomer.
FTFY.

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He probably eats avocado toast too.
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I like how there's an option to change it from Mt. Evans to Mt. Evans. Seems like the one that makes the most sense now that I think about it.
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Dave B wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:32 am He probably eats avocado toast too.
On homemade sourdough. 8)
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obviously, the mountain should be renamed Mt. Chris Evans.
no one could possibly have a problem naming it after Captain America.
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This article says some natives unhappy with the proposed name Blue Sky.

https://www.westword.com/news/sand-cree ... t-15573248

(Second paragraph from end.)

Not properly consulting tribes has gotten organizations into trouble, as was the main point of the article.
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