Chicago Transplant wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:57 pm
Thanks Boggy, I didn't realize the statute notes warning, I thought it was only if they cause the damage. I think it goes back to my earlier posts on this whole topic that a sign at the trailhead that says "marked and unmarked hazards may exist" covers it all in my opinion. I don't think its neccesary to have a cone/sign at every pothole or washout along the way or the trail will have so many signs they would lose their effectiveness. Plus people (trail users) will move the cones, knock them over, think they are eyesore and remove them. Does the CRUS really expect the owners to maintain their cone? At that point just have the landowner stand by the washout and say "heads up"? How much guarding does one have to do? I guess I just using extreme hypotheticals to get people to see my point of view that 1 generic sign at the trailhead and you're covered.
So this is actually the biggest concern among the landowners on this issue. The law is incredibly vague about what constitutes a 'warning'.
For example, last year the CMC and owners installed 22 signs on the Decalibron route - it only took 1 year for six of them (28%) to be vandalized so badly that they needed to be replaced. But the law is silent on issues like this. If the owner learns that the sign was broken or stolen - how quickly must they replace it? What if they can't get up there for a few weeks while they order a replacement - and someone gets hurt? What if the signs get stolen again - and again - and they finally stop paying out of pocket and replacing them - and then someone gets hurt. Does that count? The requirement to warn of known dangers places a huge burden on landowners to install and maintain signage - and there are far too many uncertainties for them to feel safe.
As for the idea of a generic warning sign at the trailhead - that likely would not protect landowners. The way the law is worded ("Known dangerous conditions") a vague warning wouldn't be specific enough. A 'known' hazard means that landowners have specific, objective knowledge of a hazard. Thus, a generic sign that doesn't mention specific, known risks (like a section of trail that washed out) would not be considered a warning about that specific risk - and that means the landowner would be liable under the exemption in the bill.
The Colorado recreational use statute, as written, is irrevocably broken. It needs to be fixed.