bump.nunns wrote:I would not recommend Elbert as your first 14er unless you are pretty lean and fit; it is over 4000 feet elevation gain as compared to 3000 (or a little less) for Sherman, Torreys, Quandary, or Bierstadt.
Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
Seems as if you have an opinion of his opinion. Why not comment?stephakett wrote:bump.
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
oh, i really couldn't have said it better myselfhighpilgrim wrote:Seems as if you have an opinion of his opinion. Why not comment?stephakett wrote:bump.

i took two people up elbert as their first 14ers. it's technically very straightforward, but the elevation gain is quite a lot and i overlooked that part when i was searching for an "easy" route (rookie mistake on my part). one person got gassed at treeline and turned around. i've also had people biff on la plata SW ridge, san luis, quandary, and on grizzly d, but to be fair- the latter attempts were by pack-a-day (at least) smokers.
i admire the heck out of people who repeatedly help first timers-- i don't think i'm cut out for it.
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
I enjoy helping people up mountains, 1st time or not. I've helped 3 people up their 1st 14er and 3 up their 1st 13er. My only caveat is that it not be on a weekend.stephakett wrote: i took two people up elbert as their first 14ers. it's technically very straightforward, but the elevation gain is quite a lot and i overlooked that part when i was searching for an "easy" route (rookie mistake on my part). one person got gassed at treeline and turned around. i've also had people biff on la plata SW ridge, san luis, quandary, and on grizzly d, but to be fair- the latter attempts were by pack-a-day (at least) smokers.
i admire the heck out of people who repeatedly help first timers-- i don't think i'm cut out for it.
Truth be told I'm jonesing to get back out there. I don't know if I'll get any more winter Peaks done before the 21st and I really don't see much point in heading up in April or May; no snowflake, but all the fun conditions of one.
I agree, Elbert isn't what I would call an easy beginning to peak bagging. My 1st one was Pikes, via Barr. :/ Poor life choice on my part there.
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
my 14 year-old kiddo is asking to do a 14er with me this summer. he's never hiked a 14er although he has done a lot of hiking with me here in new mexico, including one 12er. i actually really liked the San Luis Peak suggestion that is noted in the previous comments, especially if we hike it on a weekday!
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
If you must try a 14er on the weekend, San Luis is probably the best choice because it's not a particularly popular peak due to its location. I'd still rather go on a weekday if possible, but it won't be the end of the world if you try San Luis on a weekend.shelly+ wrote:my 14 year-old kiddo is asking to do a 14er with me this summer. he's never hiked a 14er although he has done a lot of hiking with me here in new mexico, including one 12er. i actually really liked the San Luis Peak suggestion that is noted in the previous comments, especially if we hike it on a weekday!
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
I agree. I've done a couple peaks in the San Juans on weekends in late June or early July -I usually work all but 2 summer weekends- and I think there are as many people on a San Juan 14er on a weekend as a front range or Tensquito 14er during the week. On seperate weekday trips to Sunshine/Redcloud, El Diente, and Wilson I saw only one or 2 other groups the whole time I was out. Wetterhorn, or the other Wilson, on a Sat had about 40 people that I saw.Mtnman200 wrote: If you must try a 14er on the weekend, San Luis is probably the best choice because it's not a particularly popular peak due to its location. I'd still rather go on a weekday if possible, but it won't be the end of the world if you try San Luis on a weekend.
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i still owe ya a hot cocoaPtglhs wrote:Truth be told I'm jonesing to get back out there.
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
I did Huron last summer. The 2wd parking adds an extra 2 miles each way, to 4wd th, but it was relatively flat & easy I thought. Took right at 45 minutes on the way up. Kind of a pain on the way down though. But I was pretty tired from 3 days hiking.
It is supposed to be one of the more scenic, and easier, 14er routes. I'd hiked a lot the 2 days before and had issues, but I don't know that it's that hard, for a 14er. Gets steeper as you go up though. Lots of other peaks in the area. Hoping to get back.
I might try a 2wd pickup, to 4wd th, but we had a car.
It is supposed to be one of the more scenic, and easier, 14er routes. I'd hiked a lot the 2 days before and had issues, but I don't know that it's that hard, for a 14er. Gets steeper as you go up though. Lots of other peaks in the area. Hoping to get back.
I might try a 2wd pickup, to 4wd th, but we had a car.
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
Can I ask how early you would recommend arriving for a summer weekend hike? Thank you!Alpine Guy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:59 pm Remember that summer high country hikes require a very early alpine start (or you'll never get a parking place on these peaks).
Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
oh... 4am? 5 at the latest.AlexKnowles wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:17 pmCan I ask how early you would recommend arriving for a summer weekend hike? Thank you!Alpine Guy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:59 pm Remember that summer high country hikes require a very early alpine start (or you'll never get a parking place on these peaks).
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Re: Gray’s vs. Quandary vs. Mt. Elbert?
Quoted for truth.stephakett wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:38 pmoh, i really couldn't have said it better myselfbut i'll expand on my bump:
i took two people up elbert as their first 14ers. it's technically very straightforward, but the elevation gain is quite a lot and i overlooked that part when i was searching for an "easy" route (rookie mistake on my part). one person got gassed at treeline and turned around. i've also had people biff on la plata SW ridge, san luis, quandary, and on grizzly d, but to be fair- the latter attempts were by pack-a-day (at least) smokers.
i admire the heck out of people who repeatedly help first timers-- i don't think i'm cut out for it.
We just did Elbert as our first 14er, and it was very challenging. Bierstadt was a walk in the park comparatively. I highly recommend Bierstadt as beginner hike. In fact, I'm taking another group up there in October, and am planning to focus on that one as their first one. I actually enjoyed the Bierstadt trail over Elbert, though the view on top of Elbert seems hard to beat.