I mean, this isn't going to "fix" I-70 though.
looks like next I-70 mess has started
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Make wilderness less accessible.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
I mean... you're not wrong. But nobody has the intestinal fortitude to do what is required to "fix" I-70, though.Dave B wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:42 pmI mean, this isn't going to "fix" I-70 though.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Here is what it should look like when finished. Something needs to be done, that 3 lanes down to 2 lanes at the top of Floyd Hill is a perpetual bottleneck and traffic jam.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
And what would that be, the Thanos option?SkaredShtles wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:49 pmI mean... you're not wrong. But nobody has the intestinal fortitude to do what is required to "fix" I-70, though.

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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Commuting this ski season is going to suck even more now
Off topic, do they have any plans to expand the entirety of 285 to at least two lanes?
Off topic, has there ever been a proposal to put in a highway to connect the Winter Park/Steamboat/Grandby area with NW metro-Denver/Boulder?
The Floyd Hill expansion looks pretty cool:


Off topic, do they have any plans to expand the entirety of 285 to at least two lanes?
Off topic, has there ever been a proposal to put in a highway to connect the Winter Park/Steamboat/Grandby area with NW metro-Denver/Boulder?
The Floyd Hill expansion looks pretty cool:

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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
A highway through the Jame Peaks Wilderness or Indian Peaks Wilderness? Not happening, and I for one would never want to see it happen.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Why improve the road when you can just ban cars?
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Yes. There have been several proposals for a vehicle tunnel from the Front Range to Winter Park. None of them got off the ground and such a tunnel is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Europe has many long tunnels through the mountains. Colorado can't even get toilets at all the 14er trailheads.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
Winter Park already has way to many people, a tunnel would make it as bad a times square in NYC. I never want to see a tunnel for cars up here.
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
I will be coming from KC and staying in Dillon next week with plans for Kelso Ridge, The Sawtooth, Holy Cross, and some 13ers. I assume alpine starts will be fine, but the drives back to my lodging in the afternoon and evening may experience delays, correct?
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Re: looks like next I-70 mess has started
No.Ed_Groves wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:40 am I will be coming from KC and staying in Dillon next week with plans for Kelso Ridge, The Sawtooth, Holy Cross, and some 13ers. I assume alpine starts will be fine, but the drives back to my lodging in the afternoon and evening may experience delays, correct?