1st Hand Account of Women Stuck on Longs

[crossfitter]

I for one am looking forward to seeing all you Jackals who were ripping on these women last week eat some well-earned crow. Remember when you were all sharpening your pitchforks for their supposedly stupid decision to start their hike on Wednesday? Take note: this is exactly why you should not speculate, death threads or otherwise. I now invite our esteemed accident investigators to bestow their wisdom upon us now that they have a real 1st hand account of a near-miss to work with.

[kansas]

Can we all wait 3hr 18min. to answer this question? It has all the makings of a memorable FSS.

We do not speak of the FSS on the dotcom.

And well said, Kris.

[d_baker]

I for one am looking forward to seeing all you Jackals who were ripping on these women last week eat some well-earned crow.

hahaha....one of the jackals has already written in on this topic, and was singing a much different tune.

[DeTour]

The main lesson I am taking away from this(although the weather doesn't sound like something I would ascend longs in, I'm sure I'm a p**sy for that in MP world) is something I have heard before and already practice to ensure. And that is a complete non reliance on battery operated technology. The girls mentioned several times not knowing where to go due to a lack of a functioning GPS. This is not a critique on them because they did a lot of things very well. But more of a critique of technology in the wilderness. Orienteering is a basic skill no mountaineer/hiker/climber/nature walker/ bird watcher should be without. Again not criticizing the women because getting your bearings on top of an unknown mountain in a snowstorm is damn near impossible no matter how many summits you have.

You're still spewing misinformation when you should just apologize for arrogantly bashing them big time in the original thread, based on inaccurate assumptions. They mentioned that they didn't have the assistance of a GPS. That's completely different than "not knowing where to go" without one. Stating that one tool which might have helped was unavailable does not mean they were helpless without it. For all we know their orienteering skills might far exceed yours. I don't have firsthand knowledge of the Loft route, but isn't that Clark's Arrow exit considered a bit tricky to find in good conditions, much less in deteriorating weather?

I think it's time for you to man up and repeat these words after me: "I .... was ..... wrong."

[d_baker]

Do you have your popcorn yet?

[rijaca]

Do you have your popcorn yet?

No.

[painless4u2]

isn't that Clark's Arrow exit considered a bit tricky to find in good conditions, much less in deteriorating weather?

Yes. When we ascended Keplinger's Couloir in perfect weather, we never did see that arrow, although we didn't spend a great deal of time looking for it. Apparently, it is very faded and difficult to see.

[d_baker]

Lynx, you look nothing like you do in your avatar.

[Hungry Jack]

Pretty amazing story. Sounds like they were properly equipped for the trip, and the gear saved them. It is not clear from the report, but I assume they descended the Loft Couloir? Or did they? That would be really hard to do in crappy weather without any previous experience on the route. It is fairly easy to find your way up, but descending that thing by finding the traverse above the cliffs that takes you to the ramps...sheesh.

And I love the disclaimer. We take care of our own shitstorms here all by ourselves!

[Tory Wells]

Lynx, you look nothing like you do in your avatar.

Just wait until you see the post-plastic surgery pics. Now that is a horror show.

[HikerGuy]

It is not clear from the report, but I assume they descended the Loft Couloir? Or did they?

I am going to speculate wildly and say they probably came down the Sandbeach Lake Trail to the Wild Basin entrance station.

EDIT: After rereading their firsthand account, they may have followed Hunters Creek right to the ranger station at the end of Wild Basin Rd. Tough gurlz indeed.

[TheGreatCamillo]

I think the "factual" needs and asterisk