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Broderick22 wrote:Ok well it seems that this is just going to diverge into an argument on guns. First off I love Colorado and have hiked many of its mountains and in no way want to litter or create a nuisance to others. However, shooting guns on public lands is not prohibited. In fact, the BLM sais target shooting is legal in most public areas as long as you dont leave garbage behind. For this reason, clays may not be the best idea. I dont shoot hardly ever but my friend does which is why he wanted to include it in his camping trip. Its amazing that you say the word "gun" on a hiking forum and everyone freaks out. There are responsible people out there that shoot guns, hunt, hike and use the environment correctly.
You're right, and since I don't know you, I'll assume you're responsible. Shooting clays on public land just sounds like a bad idea. I support second amendment rights as much as anyone, but it's the few bad apples who abuse that right that give everyone else a bad name. Unfortunately, that happens in Colorado quite a bit. The few times I do personally shoot, I do so on private land or at a range. When I'm in the public wilderness, I don't really enjoy feeling like I'm in South Central LA, so I try to respect other people's desire for peace and quiet as well.
That said, I think camping for a bachelor party sounds like a great idea. Props on that!
“If you're bumming out, you're not gonna get to the top, so as long as we're up here we might as well make a point of grooving." -Scott Fischer
There's a de facto shooting range in the national forest near Kenosha Pass. Never been myself, but buddies go shooting there. There's sure to be camping nearby. Do some googling, you'll find it. Wish I could give you more precise directions, but again I've never been.
Any place where I'm not that weekend is fine with me.
Being next to you guys would be my version of hell. Hate loud s**t like that.
I think you didnt read my post too closely. I specifically asked for "something off the beaten path" for just this reason. We are not a bunch of drunk idiots going to a strip club for a bachelor party. My friend is getting married and wants to go camping for Christ's sake. He enjoys hunting and has a passion for guns. I don't think I know a more responsible gun owner than him. Being that it is his wedding, I am the one in charge of finding a good spot. I have only ever used Colorado's wilderness for hiking and not so much for big group camping. I was hoping to get a suggestion on a place you could camp off the beaten path where no one would care that you shoot a few rounds into a hill as long as you clean it up, which we will.
Also, we are not looking for "gun tours" or shooting ranges or other things that revolve around cities. We are looking to get away from cities and people and just have a good time.
Broderick22 wrote:Ok well it seems that this is just going to diverge into an argument on guns...Its amazing that you say the word "gun" on a hiking forum and everyone freaks out. There are responsible people out there that shoot guns, hunt, hike and use the environment correctly.
If you really want to shoot guns, then to me the western slope seems like a good idea. Lots of BLM land (fyi clay remnants are considered litter) and fewer people. Plus, it's not hard to pick a place that's easy drive to good places to hike. BUT, shooting anywhere near developed campgrounds, trails, or parking is flat out a terrible idea unless it's a specifically a shooting range.
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stoopdude wrote:There's a de facto shooting range in the national forest near Kenosha Pass. Never been myself, but buddies go shooting there. There's sure to be camping nearby. Do some googling, you'll find it. Wish I could give you more precise directions, but again I've never been.
Ssshhhhhhh.
My GF and I camp in this area. We went out a couple weekends ago for the first time this season and our extremely secluded, well hidden spot looks like this bachelor party already found it. It was trashed.
Broderick22 wrote: I have only ever used Colorado's wilderness for hiking and not so much for big group camping.
Understood. Hope you find a nice secluded place to go have fun. There's still a lot of empty space out there, thankfully.
One more point though, noise pollution is still pollution. Wilderness for me means an area with natural beauty and sounds, away from all of modern sh!t that we've built up.
Last September I noticed a wedding reception at the Windy Point group campground on Lake Dillion, Summit County. That is a beautiful area. Its about 20 minutes from Quandry trailhead. Plenty of other recreation like hiking, biking, boating and Breck bar hopping. Summit countybis accessible to Denver and DIA.
There is a shooting range not too far away. I 've never been there but heard it on Lake Dillion camping trips.
So one of my best friends is getting married and I am in charge of organizing his bachelor party. We have decided to do a camping trip and I want to find an awesome location where we can camp easily. Somewhere that 10 vehicles can reach, probably not all Jeeps or Trucks. Ideally this locaiton would have great views and some good hikes around it, not necessarily 14ers. Also, he is a fan of guns so we may be bringing clay pigeons. We will be there Friday - Sunday. We are looking for something that is maybe off the beaten path a bit and definitely not an established campground.
Any ideas would be great!!! Thanks
I'd advocate Turquoise Lake, near Leadville if there are still sites available for the dates you have mind. It's great for group camping and paved roads make it feasible for any vehicle to get in there. In terms of 14ers, Mount Elbert and Mount Massive aren't close by and there are plenty of other non-14er options available.
If this is serious, and not a troll, look at the BLM land on the west side of the state, you'll be much more likely to find what you're looking for.
In my opinion the shooting laws in much of the national forests in colorado need to be looked at because it's just getting too crowded, kind of like how camping is regulated in popular spots too. That person getting shot down near Pine is a perfect example, no way people should be shooting guns at any other designated places within at least a 2 hour drive of Denver.