How many finishers...really?

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Re: How many finishers...really?

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dr_j wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2024 9:16 am So while we're discussing the Sunlight summit block, how many have been on top of that little jutting rock on Snowmass?
I sure have :-D
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climbingcue wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:08 am I am 6’2” that definitely makes it easier.
Haha, me too. Makes the "jumps" just giant steps.
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Istoodupthere wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:37 am
climbingcue wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:10 pm How to video for sunlight

I’ve heard many talk about the scary jump on sunlight. This video makes it look so easy. Maybe because he’s possibly tall? Is it the hop down onto the 2nd boulder below the summit that is supposed to be tough?

I’ve also heard many people say that they only touched the summit with their hand so how many people have truly submitted all 58?
One thing people aren't talking about is that on the other side of what you're seeing is a sheer cliff and the gap between the hop jump is several feet and drops down to like 30 ft. Technically it's pretty easy, mentally it isn't for most people.
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Welp, could always bring a rope and just throw in the Spire along the way.
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climbingcue wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:08 am
Istoodupthere wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:37 am I’ve heard many talk about the scary jump on sunlight. This video makes it look so easy. Maybe because he’s possibly tall? Is it the hop down onto the 2nd boulder below the summit that is supposed to be tough?

I’ve also heard many people say that they only touched the summit with their hand so how many people have truly submitted all 58?
I am 6’2” that definitely makes it easier.
Nice, is that you in the video, Billy? My partner took a similar video of me, but you're crushing it! I'll have to show this to him.
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bdloftin77 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:59 am Nice, is that you in the video, Billy? My partner took a similar video of me, but you're crushing it! I'll have to show this to him.
Yes, that is me. It has been a great year in the mountains for us this year.
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How many finishers didn't follow the 3000 foot rule on Democrat, Bierstadt, or Culebra?
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Jim Davies wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:37 pm How many finishers didn't follow the 3000 foot rule on Democrat, Bierstadt, or Culebra?
I have to respectfully say that there is a substantial difference between "I didn't go all the way to the top of Sunlight because I wasn't confident enough in my climbing skills"
versus
"I didn't climb 3000' on Culebra because I didn't want to add an hour+ and 2-3 miles of pointless hiking up and down a road."

The first one is a skill set issue, the second is more of not dotting an "i"/crossing a "t".

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In the 40 years since I first climbed Sunlight have I ever been asked if I actually reached the top. Nor has anybody asked me if I adhered to the "3000 ft' rule when hiking the 14ers.

Although I was once asked why I hadn't climbed N Eolus (although I had climbed Eolus twice at that point).
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rijaca wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:20 pm Nor has anybody asked me if I adhered to the "3000 ft' rule when hiking the 14ers.
Agreed on this. The more peaks I've done the more I've decided the 3000 foot rule is at best silly and pointless unless you're doing an FKT. I think 'hike to the summit from an established trailhead' makes more sense for 14ers.

One of the 10ers from this summer was 0.63 miles RT and 85 feet of gain.
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Jon Frohlich wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:31 pm
rijaca wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:20 pm Nor has anybody asked me if I adhered to the "3000 ft' rule when hiking the 14ers.
Agreed on this. The more peaks I've done the more I've decided the 3000 foot rule is at best silly and pointless unless you're doing an FKT. I think 'hike to the summit from an established trailhead' makes more sense for 14ers.

One of the 10ers from this summer was 0.63 miles RT and 85 feet of gain.
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Re: How many finishers...really?

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rijaca wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:20 pm In the 40 years since I first climbed Sunlight have I ever been asked if I actually reached the top. Nor has anybody asked me if I adhered to the "3000 ft' rule when hiking the 14ers.

Although I was once asked why I hadn't climbed N Eolus (although I had climbed Eolus twice at that point).
I think that the 3000' rule is a decent rule of thumb. You wouldn't count climbing Evans from the parking lot, or Pikes from the train exit.
But in cases where the most common trailhead is 2200' or 2500' or 2800' from the top, it seems silly to hike down a road a few hundred feet and then return to where you were just to satisfy an arbitrary number (although I did do this once a long time ago, before I climbed a lot of the more difficult 14ers).

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