Oh I'm personally done trying to reason with him.polar wrote:You guys are trying to use reason and logic with the LongWeed? Ha, good luck. I think you'll have a better chance fixing our congress. The LongWeed knows so much about hiking and scrambling, he even wrote a book on how to walk on uneven terrain.
how much water and other gear questions
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Re: how much water and other gear questions
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I like to splash water on my kids if they start getting too warm. Besides, it's fun throwing water on your kids.
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Gotta love it! 62 posts on how to manage water usage. Yeah Baby! 

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we used to do that when rock climbing - but with beerFCSquid wrote: I'll pack two one-quart Gatorade bottles when starting the hike, bring them somewhere up near treeline and stash them in nearest stream along the way. Sip water while summitting and coming back down, then I'll find my stash of Gatorade on the way out and pound one of them completely. Pack the other (now ice-cold) bottle down and enjoy it at camp / in the car.

So with all this talk of filtration - with Gray's Peak specifically - just how many streams will I cross? the route description didn't seem to mention any except for one at the very beginning. It doesn't really seem worth it to bring our filtration if there's no ready water to filter.
Personally, I will NEVER drink all the water and then head back down. I've been injured on what should have been a simple hike before and what should have taken 20-30 mins to get out took hours. To me, that's just not worth the risk. But to each her own.
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Re: how much water and other gear questions
I wouldn't bother with a filter on Grays and Torreys. I think this is the last place along the trail you have access to a stream, and it's really not that far away from the trailhead. A filter makes more sense for peaks with a longer approach and/or water further away from the TH.josephine wrote: So with all this talk of filtration - with Gray's Peak specifically - just how many streams will I cross? the route description didn't seem to mention any except for one at the very beginning. It doesn't really seem worth it to bring our filtration if there's no ready water to filter.
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As far as stashing water/sports drink, I'm not a big fan of stashing gear in general. If I'm doing a simple day hike, I like to carry everything with me. What if you're forced to go a different way (not on G&T, but possible on other peaks), what if you actually need the stashed gear later, what if you get chased off the peak by a fast moving thunderstorm? The last thing on your mind is to grab a couple bottles of Gatorade from under a bush when you're trying to outrun a thunderstorm. Then your stashed Gatorade suddenly becomes trash. So personally, I either leave it in the car (bring a cooler if you want cold drinks) or bring it with me.
Same goes for stashed beer and rock climbing: just carry the beer in your belly, it will make all the routes feel easier.

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Re: how much water and other gear questions
One thing I try to do is tank up before I go. Should help with fatigue, as well. I hiked about 12 miles up to 12,500 and barely used any on the hike week before last.
But I like to carry 8 bottles, which I think is a gallon. I don'tlike to run out, and I like to have enough food and water, etc. in case I have to spend the night.
Plus someone else might need some. Gave some matches to a couple whose stove lighter thing broke. And they wound up doing me a big favor, too. I probably take more than most on here. Haven’t done a 14er yet, though.
But I like to carry 8 bottles, which I think is a gallon. I don'tlike to run out, and I like to have enough food and water, etc. in case I have to spend the night.
Plus someone else might need some. Gave some matches to a couple whose stove lighter thing broke. And they wound up doing me a big favor, too. I probably take more than most on here. Haven’t done a 14er yet, though.
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Re: how much water and other gear questions
I think there a big difference between carrying a gallon, not having drank any water before, and a gallon, having tanked up in the morning.
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