TravelingMatt wrote:We know his plate number, 060-MXP. Can someone run his tags to see who the owner is? In most states this is public record, although it might cost a few bucks. But I know we have some folks in law enforecement here who can get this info for free in minutes.
I think we've well established probable cause (trespassing, abandonment of vehicle... making up reasons to cite you is what cops do).
Point taken... but why would a Denver (or other front range) cop involve themselves in something outside their jurisdiction? Maybe an Alma cop will chime in.
I think we've well established probable cause (trespassing, abandonment of vehicle... making up reasons to cite you is what cops do).
To run the plate, It'd have to be someone in that area with jurisdiction. If it happens to be sitting on someone's land/claim, that person would have to file against him first. If he's parked on public land then he's just stuck. Not anyone's problem but his own. He's not exactly impeding traffic, so moving it is up to him I guess. It would be funny if a sheriff hiked all the way up there and stuck some sort of parking ticket on the windshield, or one of those "Move vehicle within 24 hours or it will be towed" tags on the window. If only he'd be so lucky, right?
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Wow! Some pretty harsh comments. Every now and then a person (any person) can misjudge a situation, road, trail, mountain, and get in over their head. At least he and his family are alive to learn from this.
I agree, this guy showed a lack of responsiblity by putting anyone other than himself (kids in the truck and surrounding hikers) at risk, driving over his head, and leaving the vehicle up there for any amount of time other than what it would take to put together a recovery.
My question is:
Does anyone ACTUALLY know if he is in violation of any law???
As far as I have been able to make out, he got in over his head, got stuck, probably had a VERY long, below average, tiring day, and is now without a truck. How about giving him the benefit of the doubt and letting him get up there to recover his truck without writing on it, talking about rolling it off the hill, and without setting it on fire, all of which show GREAT responsiblity and stewardship to the environment. If he is on a designated road/trail marked for 4x4 use, then all anyone can do is a) go up there and lend the guy a hand, or b) sit down here and bitch about it until someone else does.
If he is violation of any law, then he should be dealt with as the law requires BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, not by self-righteous a**holes that have nothing better to do than make fun of others' misfortune.
Dave B wrote:And/or line thy helmet with tin foil and realize this is a freaking mountaineering website.
aboynamedmargrette wrote:
If he is violation of any law, then he should be dealt with as the law requires BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, not by self-righteous a**holes that have nothing better to do than make fun of others' misfortune.
Misfortune? Misfortune!?! Truck Dude is hardly a victim of misfortune. He chose to go up there. We're making fun of someone else's horrible decision-making in the face of irrefutable empirical evidence that said decision was unwise. Otherwise, why don't you tell us why it was good idea for him to go up there?
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aboynamedmargrette wrote:All that would take is a truck with someone who could "actually drive" to get up past him, turn around, throw a winch cable on him and drag his ass out of there...then drive his truck down for him so that there is no repeat. I have been stuck and help to unstick in 10x the difficulty of that.
Are you serious?!?!?!? Remind me not to go 4-wheeling with you! I don't think you realize how unstable that scree really is, and what would happen to another truck (with or without someone who could "actually drive") that tried to winch him out of there while sitting on a similar foundation.
The last time this happened (no, it isn't the first), it took a set of anchors driven down to solid ground, a block and tackle system, and more work than I can even imagine to get the vehicle out of there. I just wish I could find the picture that was in the news..........