Don’t screw around!

[SurfNTurf]

Mine is the constant reporting of how fast someone is in trip reports. ... My answer is, if you love doing this to the degree you want to describe to the world why do you try to get it over with as fast as possible? ... I would say the 'winners' are the dawdlers who spend more time taking in the view, smelling the pines and just overall relishing being where they are at.

You wanna know the truth? It's because we hate it. We hate pushing ourselves. We hate moving through rugged and beautiful terrain efficiently so as to experience more and more of it. We hate having to do multiple peaks with a super light pack when we could be hauling a heavy pack and truly (truly) experience a single peak. We hate being able to run up and experience a sunrise on a 14er on a Wednesday morning and still be at work by 9AM. We really don't enjoy those.

We hate that all of the "dawdlers" are obviously having far more fun and gaining more enjoyment out of their superior way of interacting with their environment. We hate that we basically have a blindfold over our eyes and leave the camera in the car so we really don't see anything. We hate that we sometimes have to wear slotted tape goggles so as not to distract ourselves in our braggadocio conquering. We hate that we don't even know who Edward Abbey author of the Monkey Wrench Gang and advocate for leave me alone anarchism is since we don't have time for books.

We hate that others don't realize our way IS better and recognize there is only one "winning" way in which one should experience nature and that way is our way.

Damn. I guess it's time to find a new hobby. There's no elitism and dong-measuring in biking, is there? Maybe I'll switch to that.

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This new SurfnTurf is like an anti-SurfNTurf from five years ago.

There are exceptions to any stereotype. A few people I'd consider at the upper echelons of their chosen pursuits -- you, Ryan, and guys like Snobeck and Antin -- truly do it to push themselves and relish in the experience, while remaining humble. Sadly on the other end of the spectrum you have the Dr. Jon's of the world, and then a whole lot in the middle. Most people who obsess over climb times and post them publicly on a regular basis, you have to admit, do it with more than a hint of narcissism. Like I said in my original post, do you. If moving fast and light makes you happy, do it. If climbing 300 feet an hour and gawking at the scenery makes you happy, do it. No way is wrong, unless you think your way is the only one that's right.

[Monster5]

Did my name just get thrown in with Snobeck and Antin?
I can't even focus on the rest of the post. That's the male equivalent of SurfNTurf saying I'm extremely hypothetically well endowed when I'm hypothetically not. Hypothetically anyways. Thank you, Jeff. That's very kind. It's true you know. Mother had some French thrown in with the Vietnamese. Apologies to the one female on the forum today.

[dannyg23]

Mine is the constant reporting of how fast someone is in trip reports.

There's probably no more important piece of beta I glean from other people's TR's than time, at least on hiking routes. I almost always start a trip by trying to estimate how long it will take. I really don't think people are doing this to brag. Doing something "fast" is relative anyway. There is certainly a large cross section of the country that would consider any trip report on this site to be bragging, the contents displaying physical prowess well beyond them. That was a fat joke.

In some instances a time is actually the whole accomplishment. It took me no appreciable effort to hike Sanitas the first time, but it took me a TON of effort to do it in a goal time.

[12ersRule]

If my climbing resume was more well endowed, I'd totally make it a dong measuring contest.

[highpilgrim]

I'm extremely hypothetically well endowed when I'm hypothetically not. Hypothetically anyways.

That was your take? Hmmm.

Hypothetically, there's somethin happenin here, what it is ain't exactly clear.

It falls short of me recommending you guys getting a room. so far.

[12ersRule]

Monsta=the ron jeremy of the site!
who woulda guessed????

[highpilgrim]

Damn. I guess it's time to find a new hobby. There's no elitism and dong-measuring in biking, is there? Maybe I'll switch to that.

Btw, I think the freeroller's avi isn't any bicycle; it's the badass fastest Indian. v

Burt_Munro’s_Indian.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World ... est_Indian

[Monster5]

I'm guessing Ron Jeremy is a reference from before my time and I'm not very keen on googling said reference, but if I'm understanding correctly, Ron Jeremy was a fantastic mountaineer, alpinist, and rock and ice climber on par with Snobeck and Antin. Might Kramarsic's bibliography have more info on him? Perhaps Buehler's guide?

Burt Munroe? 2005? More obscure history stuff to research.

[justiner]

Ah, the World's Fastest Indian. I saw a rebuild of that in the biggest pyramid located in the Southern Hemisphere! (Also home to the oldest known, slowest-growing reptile!) The original WFI is located in the post office, a few blocks away.

Gotta love Kiwis!

[TallGrass]

Roland "Rollie" Free
"the very first Vincent HRD ... one of the most famous photographs in motorcycling history, the "bathing suit bike" shot taken from a speeding car alongside his run on the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah"

[highpilgrim]

HAHA, Gassy!

That's good to know. Bonneville salt flat badasses are all cool. Now, I know a new one.

But Burt Munro was much faster.

[FireOnTheMountain]

Monsta=the ron jeremy of the site!