Well, yeah. But it's still fun to whine about, right? I would gladly read a 20-page thread of I-70 war stories. Misery loves company.lordhelmut wrote:Can't believe this thread has this many posts. Debating 285 vs 70 is like deciding between drowning yourself and self immolation. They both suck, they both are going to get worse, they both are full of gaper retard assclowns and they both require leaving and coming home at odd hours of the morning and night and hoping for the best. That's all there is to it. If you decide to live here or decide to visit, this is the reality you are faced with in Colorado in 2018 and you prepare accordingly.
I70 vs US 285
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It doesn't take too many gapers to totally destroy traffic. We got 2" of snow this morning. A wreck totally screwed I-25 (what else is new?). 2 gapers ruined the best alternative. Missouri plates (of course) going 20mph on a perfectly straight road and a stalled truck at the busiest intersection.
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People are the best!
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285 ftw.
Unless you happen to enjoy 30 mph uphill truck races.
Unless you happen to enjoy 30 mph uphill truck races.
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Well, friend, pretty sure that at your age, 28, you could climb 10-15 13ers a year and finish by the time you're 60. I'm betting you could climb this number of 13ers in the spring and fall when traffic on US 285 isn't quite as bad. To climb the 13ers you don't need to go totally OCD on it. A lifetime approach works just as well. And it gives you something to continually look forward to.Monster5 wrote:I'm pretty sure the entire reason I retired from 13ers years ago is because of getting stuck behind RVs on 285.
Now, if you stopped because you got bored with it, that's a different story.
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/threadlordhelmut wrote:Can't believe this thread has this many posts. Debating 285 vs 70 is like deciding between drowning yourself and self immolation. They both suck, they both are going to get worse, they both are full of gaper retard assclowns and they both require leaving and coming home at odd hours of the morning and night and hoping for the best.
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This forum has lost a few members due to climbing accidents. I'm not aware of but one member dying in an automobile accident on the way to a trailhead.Zoe Saldana wrote:Driving to the trail head is much more dangerous then climbing mountains.
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When you moving up to I***o dude? Don't tell anyone you know you left tho.lordhelmut wrote:Can't believe this thread has this many posts. Debating 285 vs 70 is like deciding between drowning yourself and self immolation. They both suck, they both are going to get worse, they both are full of gaper retard assclowns and they both require leaving and coming home at odd hours of the morning and night and hoping for the best. That's all there is to it. If you decide to live here or decide to visit, this is the reality you are faced with in Colorado in 2018 and you prepare accordingly.
Everyday is a G r A t E f U L Day here in the ID...?
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I hear Idaho is super cool. We should all move there.FireOnTheMountain wrote:When you moving up to I***o dude? Don't tell anyone you know you left tho.lordhelmut wrote:Can't believe this thread has this many posts. Debating 285 vs 70 is like deciding between drowning yourself and self immolation. They both suck, they both are going to get worse, they both are full of gaper retard assclowns and they both require leaving and coming home at odd hours of the morning and night and hoping for the best. That's all there is to it. If you decide to live here or decide to visit, this is the reality you are faced with in Colorado in 2018 and you prepare accordingly.
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'Life is too short to ski groomers'
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I vehemently do not endorse this post.jmanner wrote:I hear I***o is super cool. We should all move there.
Everyday is a G r A t E f U L Day here in the ID...?
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BOISE BABY!!!! The next Denver. I think we'd all be wise to move there.FireOnTheMountain wrote:I vehemently do not endorse this post.jmanner wrote:I hear I***o is super cool. We should all move there.
Maybe even Amazon HQ2 will throw a massive curve ball and set up shop there.
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Of all the 13er finishers, one died on a mountain, and three others had serious accidents that perhaps could have been much worse, and the spouse of one of the finishers was struck by lightning. Those are some incidents of about the 30 finishers that I know about. If I compare that to the driving mishaps of all the people I know, which is far greater than 30, I know of one person who died in a automobile accident and there have been numerous car accidents. But the hours on the road dwarfs the hours on the mountains. If people climbed about as much as they drive, you'd see far more deaths and injuries.Zoe Saldana wrote:I guess if you don't know about it; it didn't happen. GtKDArcyS wrote:This forum has lost a few members due to climbing accidents. I'm not aware of but one member dying in an automobile accident on the way to a trailhead.Zoe Saldana wrote:Driving to the trail head is much more dangerous then climbing mountains.
That's part of my rationale for rejecting that statement. If you wish to disagree, so be it. But underestimating the risks involved in mountaineering leads to complacency that can be bad. Real bad. People are better off understanding it's a false statement, at least for Class 3 and Class 4 climbs where the risks can be quite real and nothing to mess with. I've been at this for decades, and I've met far more people who have died in the mountains than have died on the road. Your mileage may vary.
