Any LGBT 14er finishers?

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Re: Any LGBT 14er finishers?

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Come on, Kris, you're better than that. I removed the last post based on the forum rules^.
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BillMiddlebrook wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:26 am Come on, Kris, you're better than that. I removed the last post based on the forum rules^.
crossfitter wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:23 am Remember folks, if you can't be first, just add new and more adjectives in front of your accomplishment so that your mediocrity can be celebrated, allowing your narcissism to be satiated.

Personally I'm holding out to celebrate the first left-handed, ESTP, restless-leg-symdrome survivor, born on Nov 17 finisher
I stand by my statement. Adding modifiers to previously-achieved accomplishments is simply a way to put yourself in the limelight without having done anything notable, and serves only to dilute truly novel efforts. See also: inventing new arbitrary and contrived "records". Go do something rad and then you're the first person to do something rad, who just so happens to be [insert demographic here]. This is much cooler than being person #87123 who feels entitled to special recognition over the other 87,121 people that weren't first because reasons.

At the very least, you're going to have to justify why your demographic matters. If a parapalegic crawls their way up all the 14ers then I'll give them props because holy f***ing s**t. Being a color-blind Taurus immigrant from Ethiopia finisher is considerably less compelling - though I'm sure you're still a very cool person and we're all special in our own way.
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Re: Any LGBT 14er finishers?

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This and similar conversations have been had countless times on this forum, and it’s a bit off topic but…

We aren’t all going to put up first ascents of technical remote lines on Himalayan peaks, but that doesn’t make anyone’s personal achievements mean less to them. I agree that sometimes people get obsessed about bragging about things they have done online, and sometimes those achievements might seem minor to others, but let people be excited. Why put out all the negative energy just to belittle other people’s accomplishments? It’s much easier to just let them be, it only impacts you if you let it.
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crossfitter wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:53 am I stand by my statement.
Ok. Just to be clear, the post I removed was the separate topic about being the first to do the 14ers masked, etc. If you stand by that one, you’re on the low road.
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terribletigzy wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:08 am This and similar conversations have been had countless times on this forum, and it’s a bit off topic but…

We aren’t all going to put up first ascents of technical remote lines on Himalayan peaks, but that doesn’t make anyone’s personal achievements mean less to them. I agree that sometimes people get obsessed about bragging about things they have done online, and sometimes those achievements might seem minor to others, but let people be excited. Why put out all the negative energy just to belittle other people’s accomplishments? It’s much easier to just let them be, it only impacts you if you let it.
You can be excited about your personal accomplishment, but why not do it like the rest of us who aren't claiming a special badge? You get a congratulations thread and a pat on the back from your friends and that's the end of it. Good job, gold star. If you want extra kudos, get in line with the rest of us from unnoteable demographics who have to work for it.
BillMiddlebrook wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:10 am Ok. Just to be clear, the post I removed was the separate topic about being the first to do the 14ers masked, etc. If you stand by that one, you’re on the low road.
This forum has a long history of having fun and ridiculous threads. I figure if one inane thread is good, two is better. Both of those belong in the off-route section anyway and it's a travesty it no longer exists.
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I’m just trying to keep the forum from looking like the comments section on FoxNews articles.
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BillMiddlebrook wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:26 am I’m just trying to keep the forum from looking like the comments section on FoxNews articles.
So crossfitter's entire forum history?
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How fascist of me for....advocating that everyone be treated the same regardless of the body they inhabit and not be told what to do with it by the government.

Would be cool if the forum didn't look like the comments section of CNN or MSNBC either. Bring back the 4chan vibes.
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- Alpinism and mountaineering are not restricted to 14,000 foot mountains
- Judgment and experience are the two most important pieces of gear you own
- Being honest to yourself and others about your abilities is a characteristic of experienced climbers
- Courage cannot be bought at REI or carried with you in your rucksack

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crossfitter wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:34 am How fascist of me for....advocating that everyone be treated the same regardless of the body they inhabit and not be told what to do with it by the government.

Would be cool if the forum didn't look like the comments section of CNN or MSNBC either. Bring back the 4chan vibes.
You came out of a 2.5 year post hiatus just to comment on this thread because you wanted to throw in your 2 cents on something you found controversial.

I think the optics are obvious.
supranihilest wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:29 am
BillMiddlebrook wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:26 am I’m just trying to keep the forum from looking like the comments section on FoxNews articles.
So crossfitter's entire forum history?
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Jon Frohlich wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:36 am
crossfitter wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:34 am How fascist of me for....advocating that everyone be treated the same regardless of the body they inhabit and not be told what to do with it by the government.

Would be cool if the forum didn't look like the comments section of CNN or MSNBC either. Bring back the 4chan vibes.
You came out of a 2.5 year post hiatus just to comment on this thread because you wanted to throw in your 2 cents on something you found controversial.

I think the optics are obvious.
supranihilest wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:29 am
BillMiddlebrook wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:26 am I’m just trying to keep the forum from looking like the comments section on FoxNews articles.
So crossfitter's entire forum history?
^This
I'm just here for only the dankest threads.

Though on the topics of rules, what happened to this one? I seem to recall it being violated in one direction last time too. Selective enforcement by political viewpoints, perhaps? :-k I noticed nobody ever wants to address the substance of my argument.
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- Judgment and experience are the two most important pieces of gear you own
- Being honest to yourself and others about your abilities is a characteristic of experienced climbers
- Courage cannot be bought at REI or carried with you in your rucksack

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crossfitter wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:41 am I'm just here for only the dankest threads.

Though on the topics of rules, what happened to this one? I seem to recall it being violated in one direction last time too. Selective enforcement by political viewpoints, perhaps? :-k
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Re: Any LGBT 14er finishers?

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I hate to admit it, but I'm with crossfitter on this one.

14ers need more altruism and selflessness. Finishing the 14ers is a lofty goal, but just because you identify with a specific group of people, say... I dunno, crossfitters, and want to make your 14ers finisher be special by say... I dunno, being the first to carry a keg of beer up your final peak to much celebration and picture taking, it doesn't make you special. Let's make it about the mountains again. The mountains, humility, and the lack of narcissism.

Afterall, the mountains don't care about what group you identify with.
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