Colorado Wolves Reintroduction

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Re: Colorado Wolves Reintroduction

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^ "Are you by chance a non ovo lacto vegetarian ?"
^"read my most recent trip report for the answer you seek."

Why are you so afraid of a direct answer
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Studies show 103% of people, regardless of political affiliation, give a f@#$ about whether and which animals (including people) suffer when it good and well suits them.

So back to the topic that keeps getting revived by posts about cowkill, these wolves are doing pretty much what we expected them to do: Feast on cattle, incur public expense.

Here's some info (attributed to CPW) of recorded reimbursements since late 2021:

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Date	        Location	Claim recieved		Animal involved
April 18, 2024	Grand County	No claim submitted	1 cattle
April 17, 2024	Grand County	No claim submitted	3 cattle
April 7, 2024	Jackson County	No claim submitted	1 calf
April 2, 2024	Grand County	No claim submitted	1 calf
​​​Nov. 17, 2023	Jackson County	$489			3 sheep
March 13, 2023	Jackson County	$15,000			1 dog
Nov. 19, 2022	Jackson County	$1,106.09		1 cattle
Oct. 8, 2022	Jackson County	$338.62			1 calf
Oct. 7, 2022	Jackson County	$400			1 calf
Aug. 1, 2022	Jackson County	$3,000			1 calf
May 30, 2022	Jackson County	$3,000			1 calf
May 2, 2022	Jackson County	$2,850			1 calf
April 22, 2022	Jackson County	$779.52			1 calf
​March 15, 2022	Jackson County	$1,230			2 cattle
Jan. 18, 2022	Jackson County	$8,647			3 cattle
Jan. 19, 2022	Jackson County	$1,252.72		2 dogs
Dec. 19, 2021	Jackson County	$1,800			1 calf
I guess I'm less surprised that a dog went for the full $15k than I am at the cattle payouts, though it seems no claims have been awarded yet for kills by the new pack.
Were there any estimates for this, or does the budgeting represent projections? Looks like we're putting aside $350k per year, which is good for many cows, or 23 dogs.
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Who asked for a slaughterhouse video?
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^^ Solid, but no Simpsons :)

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Monte Meals wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 8:31 pm ^ "Are you by chance a non ovo lacto vegetarian ?"
^"read my most recent trip report for the answer you seek."

Why are you so afraid of a direct answer
My diet is irrelevant. Get to your point.
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When I lived on a farm in New York, we'd just drag a dead calf out to the middle of a field, then wait for them to come back and shoot them.

That was for coyotes though, not sure how long wolves remain in the same area or if they return to kill areas.
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SkaredShtles wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:54 pm Won't someone think of the baby cows??

:roll:
i agree with the wolves, they are delicious.
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two lunches wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:33 am
SkaredShtles wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 6:54 pm Won't someone think of the baby cows??

:roll:
i agree with the wolves, they are delicious.
Great. Now I'm hungry for osso buco.
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XterraRob wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:15 am When I lived on a farm in New York, we'd just drag a dead calf out to the middle of a field, then wait for them to come back and shoot them.

That was for coyotes though, not sure how long wolves remain in the same area or if they return to kill areas.
You shot the dead calf twice?! :mrgreen:
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greenonion wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 12:20 pm You shot the dead calf twice?! :mrgreen:
Sometimes when the calf pen was full, we'd have to tie the calves up in the main barn near the cows. At night, roaming coyotes would see that, come close, eat part of a calf, then leave the rest. Then over the next couple nights, we'd drag them out a couple fields away from the barn, sit out in the treeline with a spotlight and some long guns, and wait for the coyotes to come back.
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XterraRob wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 12:50 pm
greenonion wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 12:20 pm You shot the dead calf twice?! :mrgreen:
Sometimes when the calf pen was full, we'd have to tie the calves up in the main barn near the cows. At night, roaming coyotes would see that, come close, eat part of a calf, then leave the rest. Then over the next couple nights, we'd drag them out a couple fields away from the barn, sit out in the treeline with a spotlight and some long guns, and wait for the coyotes to come back.
Ahhh. And THEN you'd shoot the dead calf! Now I get it. You don't shoot it twice. Just once.
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