Colorado Wolves Reintroduction

[supranihilest]

Looking at the most recent wolves migration map, I'm a bit concerned about hikers encountering them in the Holy Cross area and the Gores this summer. New definition for "getting gored" in the works?
https://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/Wol ... y-Map.aspx

This is why nobody hikes or climbs in Yellowstone, Glacier, the Tetons, the Wind River Range, the Sawtooths, Alaska, Canada, Washington, Minnesota, Idaho, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Montana, South Carolina, Oregon, California, New Mexico, or Arizona. Because they're all dead. Killed by wolves, obviously. Everyone. Can't hike there if you've been killed by wolves. It's truly unfathomable.

Don't forget Michigan!

As a Wisconsinite all the wolves in "Michigan" are in the Upper Peninsula which is rightfully a part of Wisconsin.

[supranihilest]

Looking at the most recent wolves migration map, I'm a bit concerned about hikers encountering them in the Holy Cross area and the Gores this summer. New definition for "getting gored" in the works?
https://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/Wol ... y-Map.aspx

This is why nobody hikes or climbs in Yellowstone, Glacier, the Tetons, the Wind River Range, the Sawtooths, Alaska, Canada, Washington, Minnesota, Idaho, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Montana, South Carolina, Oregon, California, New Mexico, or Arizona. Because they're all dead. Killed by wolves, obviously. Everyone. Can't hike there if you've been killed by wolves. It's truly unfathomable.

Spending too much time online is not good for your mental health

Good for my physical health though. I haven't been eaten by wolves yet because I'm terminally online and not outside.

[SnowAlien]

Looking at the most recent wolves migration map, I'm a bit concerned about hikers encountering them in the Holy Cross area and the Gores this summer.

Why does this worry you?

Because of the stupid arbitrary LIDAR rules I now have 1 "newly discovered" 13er in the Gores (R) and some ridge bump 13er in the HCW still left after hiking everything around them. In addition to peak repeats on skis in these areas. Oops, did I open another can of worms?

[SkaredShtles]

This is why nobody hikes or climbs in Yellowstone, Glacier, the Tetons, the Wind River Range, the Sawtooths, Alaska, Canada, Washington, Minnesota, Idaho, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Montana, South Carolina, Oregon, California, New Mexico, or Arizona. Because they're all dead. Killed by wolves, obviously. Everyone. Can't hike there if you've been killed by wolves. It's truly unfathomable.

Don't forget Michigan!

As a Wisconsinite all the wolves in "Michigan" are in the Upper Peninsula which is rightfully a part of Wisconsin.

Stick to your cheese-lane, there, Sport.

Do you people even *like* pasties?

[SkaredShtles]

Looking at the most recent wolves migration map, I'm a bit concerned about hikers encountering them in the Holy Cross area and the Gores this summer.

Why does this worry you?

Because of the stupid arbitrary LIDAR rules I now have 1 "newly discovered" 13er in the Gores (R) and some ridge bump 13er in the HCW still left after hiking everything around them. In addition to peak repeats on skis in these areas.

I'm still confused as to why this worries you?

[SnowAlien]

I'm still confused as to why this worries you?

I thought it was kinda obvious? Ever done solo camping in remote areas?

...there have been instances in Alaska and Canada where wolves have attacked people. The first case of wild healthy wolves killing a human in modern North America occurred in Saskatchewan in 2005; a second person was killed in 2010 in Alaska. Several other incidents of wolf aggression have resulted in serious injuries. Some people in recent years have even had worrisome encounters with wolves while in suburban settings.

People enjoying wilderness activities must be aware that all large wild animals, including wolves, present some risk to human safety. When you go into the wilderness, which in many Alaskan cities is just outside your back door, go prepared. It’s safer to travel with someone else rather than alone. In our urban environments we often don’t pay much attention to what goes on around us

https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?a ... ith.wolves

[Chicago Transplant]

Looking at the most recent wolves migration map, I'm a bit concerned about hikers encountering them in the Holy Cross area and the Gores this summer.

Why does this worry you?

Because of the stupid arbitrary LIDAR rules I now have 1 "newly discovered" 13er in the Gores (R) and some ridge bump 13er in the HCW still left after hiking everything around them. In addition to peak repeats on skis in these areas. Oops, did I open another can of worms?

The maps are worthless, they just note that a wolf has been in a certain watershed at some point in the last month. R can be day tripped from a camp in Pitkin (no activity in that watershed), and the one in HCW isn't even a watershed in the map yet at all.

[supranihilest]

Why does this worry you?

Because of the stupid arbitrary LIDAR rules I now have 1 "newly discovered" 13er in the Gores (R) and some ridge bump 13er in the HCW still left after hiking everything around them. In addition to peak repeats on skis in these areas. Oops, did I open another can of worms?

The maps are worthless, they just note that a wolf has been in a certain watershed at some point in the last month. R can be day tripped from a camp in Pitkin (no activity in that watershed), and the one in HCW isn't even a watershed in the map yet at all.

13,002 can be day tripped easily too. Both might also end up returning to 12ers after all if the new baseline or whatever ends up dropping all elevations by 3 feet. Both are fun and worthwhile peaks though.

[cedica]

I hadn't even hung up my trench coat and fedora before another caller said DEI had kicked his puppy, and then he started crying. DEI strikes again.

DEI should set up puppy kicking safe spaces, like Walf Street traders did.

[SnowAlien]

The maps are worthless, they just note that a wolf has been in a certain watershed at some point in the last month.

Why are they worthless if they show the wolf activity, updated monthly. And they been in these watersheds last several months consistently. They must be finding food there, so they return.

R can be day tripped from a camp in Pitkin (no activity in that watershed),

Thank you so much for letting me know about the preferred routes to hike my remaining peaks! I'd just love to slog all the way there for one peak. If you have no interest in QRST ridge, it doesn't mean others don't

and the one in HCW isn't even a watershed in the map yet at all.

Lovely to hear that! Any estimate as to how long that boundary will hold? How about camping for Lime creek climbing? Still safe? Mystic lakes? Gold Dust-Pike traverse? Finnegan?

I sincerely hope that as a park ranger in HCW you don't get any nasty surprises this summer. Maybe you should look into printing a brochure similar to the Alaskan one.

[PJ88]

Don't forget Michigan!

As a Wisconsinite all the wolves in "Michigan" are in the Upper Peninsula which is rightfully a part of Wisconsin.

Stick to your cheese-lane, there, Sport.

Do you people even *like* pasties?

There are people in this world that don’t like pasties?

Still best not to tell the trolls that the UP isn’t part of the state.

[SkaredShtles]

I'm still confused as to why this worries you?

I thought it was kinda obvious? Ever done solo camping in remote areas?

...there have been instances in Alaska and Canada where wolves have attacked people. The first case of wild healthy wolves killing a human in modern North America occurred in Saskatchewan in 2005; a second person was killed in 2010 in Alaska. Several other incidents of wolf aggression have resulted in serious injuries. Some people in recent years have even had worrisome encounters with wolves while in suburban settings.

People enjoying wilderness activities must be aware that all large wild animals, including wolves, present some risk to human safety. When you go into the wilderness, which in many Alaskan cities is just outside your back door, go prepared. It’s safer to travel with someone else rather than alone. In our urban environments we often don’t pay much attention to what goes on around us

https://www.adfg.alaska.gov/index.cfm?a ... ith.wolves

Yes, of course I've done solo camping in remote areas - I solo thru-hiked the CT back when you could go days on the trail without seeing any humans. And yes, wolves have attacked people. But the objective danger is vanishingly small. This is kind of like worrying that the commercial plane flight you're on is going to crash.